[BB_Eye]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Homophobia is a made-up mental illness that was popularized by gay activist orgs and people who were not psychiatrists or psychologists. It is true that the first 'documented' use (this is not the first use) might be a gay rights activist using it sarcastically (a neologism) in a hardcore porn mag,
but,
the reason it got popular was because activists and their propagandists began using it at every turn, media, placard.
Eventually the dictionary recognized it as a word being used to mean 'fear of homosexuals' (it is used that way).

For the record, I don't think homophobes are mentally ill nor that they need locking up. They are just ignorant, uneducated and/or insecure people like the poster above me. It seems you put words in... just about everybody's mouths there.

Speaking of mental illness, I'm sure any psychiatrist would have a field day with your whacko conspiracy theories and protracted, inarticulate rambling. To say nothing of your internalised homophobia.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by BB_Eye

For the record, I don't think homophobes are mentally ill nor that they need locking up. They are just ignorant, uneducated and/or insecure people like the poster above me. It seems you put words in... just about everybody's mouths there.

Speaking of mental illness, I'm sure any psychiatrist would have a field day with your whacko conspiracy theories and protracted, inarticulate rambling. To say nothing of your internalised homophobia.

I think there is a lot of confusion over people who are not gay who dislike what gay people do sexually (men) which is around 99.9% of the population and those who bully and abuse gay people because they dislike them because they do not conform to their nasty worldview.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think there is a lot of confusion over people who are not gay who dislike what gay people do sexually (men) which is around 99.9% of the population and those who bully and abuse gay people because they dislike them because they do not conform to their nasty worldview.

No, I don't think there is much confusion at all. Your just being incredibly vague about it.

Obviously a straight man would not like a cock up his ass, that's perfectly acceptable and inevitable. After all a gay man probably wouldn't like to stick his own party stick in a vag. Nobody is talking about these people. Far and beyond that plenty of real homophobes exist. People who just don't like gays on a cultural & social level, as well as but not always religious and ethical ones.

Just .. don't like the people. Hatred. I'm talking about hate. It's almost recreational hate. Some ignorant, intolerable people just ... need things to hate. Beats me why. But the gays are an old favourite. The ***** are another one. It's got nothing to do with the very different idea of simply not being comftorable participating in or watching a sexual act that's not natural or appealing to you. Nobody is 'discriminating' against these people, which you are forever trying to point out.

Just like you seem to forever be marginalizing the very real concept of homophobia whenever the situation arises.

That's a rather strange route to take in most accepting peoples eyes.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by ElProximo

Homophobia is a made-up mental illness that was popularized by gay activist orgs and people who were not psychiatrists or psychologists. It is true that the first 'documented' use (this is not the first use) might be a gay rights activist using it sarcastically (a neologism) in a hardcore porn mag,......


They are called 'gay panic response sufferers' and don't need to be called derogatory names by you.

wow.. you might even try and MEET some GPR Sufferers and realize they are actually normal people like you and me who have jobs and families and goals and not these 'horrible monsters' you make them out to be.

Its time people like you STOP your homophobist hate-spewing censoring of GPR people.

Wow you really are clutching at straws now Elprox, Gay Panic response is a defence used by people who after assaulting or even killing a homosexual have used the temporary insanity get out clause to being approached sexually by the person they have assaulted etc.

Note the word "insanity", so you pretty much admit to those you claim are gay panic sufferers as having a mental impairment. Well done mate, case proven.

It doesnt wash in the UK nor does the syndrome you mentioned.

Homophobia is an acceptable term for the irrational fear of gays, end of.

If people are so insecure in their own sexuality they feel threatened by the presence of someone who is gay, either because of previous trauma or more likely because of their own insecurities about thier own sexuality, then yes they do need some form of therapy. In a way what you are suggesting could be extended to giving anyone a get out of jail free card. " I thought he was gay your honour and after me arse so I twatted him" Yeah that really works.

Homophobia was defined as a state of mind by psychologists not by gay rights activists. No matter how much you and your homophobic mates argue it wasnt.

[Wildcat!]

The thing is, there is a difference between, what technically, homophobia is (fear of homosexual), I suppose technically it would be something they cant control, I know there are people like that, who actually have a genuine fear, for one reason or another.

BUt what most people call homophobia, we all know what it is, weather its technically correct or not, its the people who hate/discriminate/look down upon, people who are homosexuals. If you ask most people, thats what they would tell you homophobia is. unless you break down the word, or look up the meaning, most people see it as that, and, me personally, even though I know the real definition of the word, in everyday conversations, I use it as the general consensus meaning of the word, so its really silly to get technical about it. We all know what most peolpe mean, by homophobia.

Not exactly the same thing , but its similar to when people call you racist, for not liking foreigners, or not liking someone from a certain religion. Technically, it shouldnt be, but most people will just call you racist.

And btW, i thought El proximo, was just being sarcastic, and making jokes, i didnt think it was a serious post!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Stu

No, I don't think there is much confusion at all. Your just being incredibly vague about it.

Obviously a straight man would not like a cock up his ass, that's perfectly acceptable and inevitable. After all a gay man probably wouldn't like to stick his own party stick in a vag. Nobody is talking about these people. Far and beyond that plenty of real homophobes exist. People who just don't like gays on a cultural & social level, as well as but not always religious and ethical ones.

Just .. don't like the people. Hatred. I'm talking about hate. It's almost recreational hate. Some ignorant, intolerable people just ... need things to hate. Beats me why. But the gays are an old favourite. The ***** are another one. It's got nothing to do with the very different idea of simply not being comftorable participating in or watching a sexual act that's not natural or appealing to you. Nobody is 'discriminating' against these people, which you are forever trying to point out.

Just like you seem to forever be marginalizing the very real concept of homophobia whenever the situation arises.

That's a rather strange route to take in most accepting peoples eyes.

This from the poster who exhibits the most hate in the whole forum?


(although he is a nice guy underneath)

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

This from the poster who exhibits the most hate in the whole forum?


(although he is a nice guy underneath)

Apart from my longstanding campaign against troll posters, I think your full of shit. As usual.

One day, as others have alluded to in the past, you might be prepared to engage in debate with adults instead of making one liners, but it looks like today is not that day.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Stu

Apart from my longstanding campaign against troll posters, I think your full of shit. As usual.

One day, as others have alluded to in the past, you might be prepared to engage in debate with adults instead of making one liners, but it looks like today is not that day.

You would think that as you know I am right.

and you are just a lad, not an adult.

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You would think that as you know I am right.

and you are just a lad, not an adult.

If you are so confident then there is no reason why you can't outline your arguments for us all.

[Wildcat!]

Originally Posted by Stu

Apart from my longstanding campaign against troll posters, I think your full of shit. As usual.

One day, as others have alluded to in the past, you might be prepared to engage in debate with adults instead of making one liners, but it looks like today is not that day.

With adults! So not with you obviously then.

[Shaun]

a male Wombai

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Wildcat!

With adults! So not with you obviously then.

Thank you for your valid contribution. It has been noted for future reference .

[Crimson Dynamo]

i cant believe I spelled church wrong

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i cant believe I spelled church wrong

You'll be excomunicated by Gavin deep deep in the Highlands - Or sent to Switzerland

Can you pick Sweety Samy and biglover back up on the way home in a white military jumbo? thanks - Kerry goes to Iceland in them, but there's one in Inverness LT - not sure of Elgin.........ask Shas

Frozen teas @ LT's house with Samy and biglover'sister Joanne sounds super

Who invented the name for this site as TIBB (Fawlty) Towers - prey remind me..

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Stu

Apart from my longstanding campaign against troll posters, I think your full of shit. As usual.

One day, as others have alluded to in the past, you might be prepared to engage in debate with adults instead of making one liners, but it looks like today is not that day.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

[Stu]

I thought Batman ended up killing the joker in the end?

[Beastie]

Wombai and Stuuuuuuuuuu!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Stu

I thought Batman ended up killing the joker in the end?

The joker being you of course!

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Stu

I thought Batman ended up killing the joker in the end?

Batman doesn't want to kill anyone, just incapacitates them usually. Oh Stu.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wombai and Stu in civil partnership shock?

[Stu]

I'm starting to think I could post virtually anything and aul WOMBAI will somehow post back to it in a certain fashion.

Originally Posted by Stu

I like fish, I do.

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

You are the only fish around here! :hugesmile:

Originally Posted by Stu

... because I was in Paris the other day.

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

The French - would eat - you for breakfeast! :hugesmile:

Originally Posted by Stu

It's a really bad song, though.

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Not enough for your - mighty tastes! :hugesmile:

I made those ones up, believe it or not. Could you tell?

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Stu

I'm starting to think I could post virtually anything and aul WOMBAI will somehow post back to it in a certain fashion.












I made those ones up, believe it or not.

I can believe it!

[Stu]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I can believe it!

Good. It's healthy to have belief, as long as it's not too irrational.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Stu

Good. It's healthy to have belief, as long as it's not too irrational.

what if you believe you have a rash?

[Stu]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what if you believe you have a rash?

Depends what denomination you fall into, I suppose.