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Old 07-06-2010, 07:14 AM #1
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So gay and bi people are extremes and aren't regular people?
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So gay and bi people are extremes and aren't regular people?
statistically that is correct

both are under 5% of the population total of the UK
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statistically that is correct

both are under 5% of the population total of the UK
Well i'm sure a lot of people fall into a minority group so by your thinking the range of potential housemates would vastly decrease. Are people who aren't white not regular people? Are people with disabilities not regular? Are people with a certain eye colour not regular?
People should be put in the house on their personality alone, of course that doesn't happen for example we have to have a few good looking guys to keep the teenage girls watching. I think its really wrong to ask for certain people not to be in. We should judge housemates on their personality, nothing else.

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Well i'm sure a lot of people fall into a minority group so by your thinking the range of potential housemates would vastly decrease. Are people who aren't white not regular people? Are people with disabilities not regular? Are people with a certain eye colour not regular?
People should be put in the house on their personality alone, of course that doesn't happen for example we have to have a few good looking guys to keep the teenage girls watching. I think its really wrong to ask for certain people not to be in. We should judge housemates on their personality, nothing else.
no

the gays just fall into type and hang around with the women pretending to be women and thus act as ugly women.

this then reduces the number of guys in the house

people who define their person by their sexuality tend to be dull so lets not have them
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the gays just fall into type and hang around with the women pretending to be women and thus act as ugly women.

this then reduces the number of guys in the house

people who define their person by their sexuality tend to be dull so lets not have them
I didn't know someones sex was determined by who they hung around with
I think we should look at people as individuals rather that as part of groups according to their sexuality. It's very old fashioned to just stereotype a group and dislike them. There is a lot of diversity between gays like there is between straight people.

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I didn't know someones sex was determined by who they hung around with
I think we should look at people as individuals rather that as part of groups according to their sexuality. It's very old fashioned to just stereotype a group and dislike them. There is a lot of diversity between gays like there is between straight people.
I am afraid that is not how peeps are chosen for BB
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statistically that is correct

both are under 5% of the population total of the UK
Can I just ask how you managed to obtain this information?
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Can I just ask how you managed to obtain this information?
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perhaps you have different figures?

Stonewall accept Government estimates of around 5%

generally estimates are a touch over

there will be no questions in the 2011 census about sexuality so there will be no "exact figs" anytime soon

On Tibb and DS i would imagine 20 and 30% would be more accurate but that is skewed due to content.
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And you believe that?
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And you believe that?
probably 3%
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So gay and bi people are extremes and aren't regular people?
Well they may be regular people but they have some irregularity when it comes to the 'gay or bi' part of this description.

I never expect BB to make some exact statistical representation of the UK public but I'd like to see some kind of aim to the original BB concept of a 'microcosm' in the house.
If you had 20 people then maybe 1 person is either gay, lesbian, bisexual or somewhere in that loop.
This is even less likely to be an openly gay or 'flaming' person and may be someone who (for example) had occasionally had something they define as a 'homosexual experience' at some times in their life.

Again, I'm not sitting here demanding some sociological scientists draw up some charts for this,
but,
I'm with LT that it would be nice to see SOME kind of proportional representation of society at large.
Something like 1/3 the HMs would describe themselves as 'practicing Christians' of some sort and occasionally attending Church.
About half the HMs would describe themselves as 'conservative' although this could be a spectrum with about 2 HMs 'BNP' supporting types.
None would be the 'openly gay' type although a few would be virgins or people who you would describe as 'long term abstinent' people.
17 of the HMs are 'native brits' or to say 'white people' if you want to call them that.
1 might be black and 1 might be an immigrant from asia and another from poland.
1 might be a Muslim. None would be jewish. 3 would describe themselves as 'Atheists' although 5 more might describe themselves as 'agnostic' (not atheist in the dawkins sense but sincerely unwitting or apathetic to anything of it).

Again - just throwing out a picture of what a sort of 'somewhat representative' house might look and feel like.

Almost all would be working people who are reasonable well educated and very capable of running their lives somewhat responsibly. They never have fist fights. They do not go to nightclubs. Have not been arrested. Never been accused of bullying.
Most would be very interesting people beneath their reasonably polite and well-mannered exteriors and almost all would have some issues they need to resolve but do not require psychiatrists either.
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Well they may be regular people but they have some irregularity when it comes to the 'gay or bi' part of this description.

I never expect BB to make some exact statistical representation of the UK public but I'd like to see some kind of aim to the original BB concept of a 'microcosm' in the house.
If you had 20 people then maybe 1 person is either gay, lesbian, bisexual or somewhere in that loop.
This is even less likely to be an openly gay or 'flaming' person and may be someone who (for example) had occasionally had something they define as a 'homosexual experience' at some times in their life.

Again, I'm not sitting here demanding some sociological scientists draw up some charts for this,
but,
I'm with LT that it would be nice to see SOME kind of proportional representation of society at large.
Something like 1/3 the HMs would describe themselves as 'practicing Christians' of some sort and occasionally attending Church.
About half the HMs would describe themselves as 'conservative' although this could be a spectrum with about 2 HMs 'BNP' supporting types.
None would be the 'openly gay' type although a few would be virgins or people who you would describe as 'long term abstinent' people.
17 of the HMs are 'native brits' or to say 'white people' if you want to call them that.
1 might be black and 1 might be an immigrant from asia and another from poland.
1 might be a Muslim. None would be jewish. 3 would describe themselves as 'Atheists' although 5 more might describe themselves as 'agnostic' (not atheist in the dawkins sense but sincerely unwitting or apathetic to anything of it).

Again - just throwing out a picture of what a sort of 'somewhat representative' house might look and feel like.

Almost all would be working people who are reasonable well educated and very capable of running their lives somewhat responsibly. They never have fist fights. They do not go to nightclubs. Have not been arrested. Never been accused of bullying.
Most would be very interesting people beneath their reasonably polite and well-mannered exteriors and almost all would have some issues they need to resolve but do not require psychiatrists either.
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