[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally Posted by setanta

Well, not the tabloids... broadsheets will have a column or two about it.

Actually interesting looking at the Guardian now and seeing how people have been rating the players. Gerrard is getting the highest mark for England with 6.4, and the average is about 5. States are getting far higher marks. At least some people see that it was a bad performance.

But you are saying that we were shocking and we were far from shocking. Noone in here is saying we had an amazing game, we didn't, but you can't sit there and tell me that an unbiased person would say that we were totally ****e either and that there was nothing there to draw positives from.

I think even if we had won 4 -1 you still would have come in here and made some kind of derogatory comments because you don't seem to be able to give England any credit at all.

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Kitty

But you are saying that we were shocking and we were far from shocking. Noone in here is saying we had an amazing game, we didn't, but you can't sit there and tell me that an unbiased person would say that we were totally ****e either and that there was nothing there to draw positives from.

I think even if we had won 4 -1 you still would have come in here and made some kind of derogatory comments because you don't seem to be able to give England any credit at all.

I'm not being derogatory here. It just wasn't a good performance, that's all, especially from a team who have aspirations of winning the whole tournament. I'm putting this into perspective here for a team who were apparently one of the favs prior to the start of the World Cup. You wont be winning anything based on that performance.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Originally Posted by setanta

I'm not being derogatory here. It just wasn't a good performance, that's all, especially from a team who have aspirations of winning the whole tournament. I'm putting this into perspective here for a team who were apparently one of the favs prior to the start of the World Cup. You wont be winning anything based on that performance.

And again I'm saying noone here is saying we could play like that and expect to win the whole thing. But once again it is only the first game! The potential is there we just need to put it into practice, that's all.

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by Kitty

But you are saying that we were shocking and we were far from shocking. Noone in here is saying we had an amazing game, we didn't, but you can't sit there and tell me that an unbiased person would say that we were totally ****e either and that there was nothing there to draw positives from.

I think even if we had won 4 -1 you still would have come in here and made some kind of derogatory comments because you don't seem to be able to give England any credit at all.

Not really having a go at humble spirits like yours. If you were representative of the whole England fanbase then you wouldn't be setting yourself up for a fall. It's the arrogant ones who desreve their noses rubbed in it.