[vesavius]

Originally Posted by calyman

It's quite easy really, if you are able to prove your points, then use examples that are valid. Even if you thought I was being rigid in my response to your so far invalid argument, then you would easily be able to give other examples of his backstabbing, manipultations etc.

and who judges they are valid? you?

thats is exactly my point... you basically claim every point made against your opinion is invalid and then just repeat the same old thing.

Like I say, it's just an old tactic for shutting down the opposing Pov before you have to address it. You can't debate against someone who's only real stance is 'everything you say isnt valid because it has been said before'.

[calyman]

Originally Posted by vesavius

and who judges they are valid? you?

thats is exactly my point... you basically claim every point made against your opinion is invalid and then just repeat the same old thing.

Like I say, it's just an old tactic for shutting down the opposing Pov before you have to address it. You can't debate against someone who's only real stance is 'everything you say isnt valid because it has been said before'.

I've repeatedly asked you to give valid examples, which stand on their own accord, like mine did. You've repeatedly failed to do so. I also agree, you are just repeating the same old claims without introducing any real examples.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by calyman

I've repeatedly asked you to give valid examples, which stand on their own accord, like mine did. You've repeatedly failed to do so. I also agree, you are just repeating the same old claims without introducing any real examples.

Just go and re read what I have typed.. reading comprehension is a valuable skill.

When you show some understanding, even if not agreement, of what I am saying we can continue.

[calyman]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Just go and re read what I have typed.. reading comprehension is a valuable skill.

When you show some understanding, even if not agreement, of what I am saying we can continue.

There's the rub. I have re3ad your many repeated posts all saying the same thing, precisely nothing! You have been repeatedly asked by myself and many others to show concrete examples of your claims. You have consistently been unavle to do so. a new diversion you are employing is to say you have made many and various posts giving this evidence and suggesting people "search " for it. In short, you have evaded posting any such evidence, claiming that you do not want to repeatedly post (the now acknowledged) unsubstantive evidence. all you have to do is post something new, yet you are more concerned with wasting your and others time by saying you refuse to do so. If you do indeed have such time to waste then I (yawn) again ask you to post substantive evidence which baqcks up your repeated claims which are becoming very tiresome to constantly read.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by calyman

There's the rub. I have re3ad your many repeated posts all saying the same thing, precisely nothing!

then you obviously have not understood.

I havent read the rest of your post here, I'm sorry.

[calyman]

Originally Posted by vesavius

then you obviously have not understood.

I havent read the rest of your post here, I'm sorry.

Fortunately, I do understand, you are just dissembling, with no intention to post any credible evidence to back up your claims. If you had done so, then I could at least respect your integrity and passion to "prove" your claims.

Unfortunately, that's not possible, is it?

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by calyman

Fortunately, I do... /snip

still plainly havent. come back when you have.