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I would have the same stance on any HM that behaved the way Ben has... If Shabby had nommed Ife for instance while pretending to be her friend I would be posting the same stuff.

Ben supporters are just scrabbling around for rationalisation for his weak cowardly behaviour being held up to the light I think though, even resorting to the kind of deflecting tactic seen in the OP.