[arsenalforever]

This will cause a lot of debate

he's been a great hm
why not he's given entertainment

[chuff me dizzy]

Totally agree Ben to win

[starry]

I'm gonna throw it out there - Sunshine to win BB11. More genuine and more fun than Ben.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by starry

I'm gonna throw it out there - Sunshine to win BB11. More genuine and more fun than Ben.

Genuine my ass ,attention seeking more like

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

i wouldn't mind Ben winning, but i dont think he will, although i think he will definitely be there long while yet.

[karezza]

Sunshine or Ben to win.

[newspresenter]

He has done a brave thing, he got it out early on who thinks what of him, now he's quiet because he survived an eviction and he has a very good understanding who he like and who doesn't like him, i bet he'll keep his cool now and will get to the latter stages.

Its a little bit like Siavash last year when he got the others to put him up to see how liked he was and to put pressure on the HM's after he survived an eviction.

Clever Ben.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

This will cause a lot of debate

he's been a great hm
why not he's given entertainment

I think he has a chance, sure.

I obviously loathe the guy on many levels but I have always said he is good for the house.

The trouble with HMs that have an actual personality is that they polarise opinions, especially around here, and get the chop while those with nothing cruise on.

if he can overcome that he has a chance. All depends on how BB edit him in the HLs.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by newspresenter

He has done a brave thing, he got it out early on who thinks what of him, now he's quiet because he survived an eviction and he has a very good understanding who he like and who doesn't like him, i bet he'll keep his cool now and will get to the latter stages.

Its a little bit like Siavash last year when he got the others to put him up to see how liked he was and to put pressure on the HM's after he survived an eviction.

Clever Ben.

Unlike Siavash I doubt Ben will be all over the house ho ,that cost him winning last year IMO

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by newspresenter

he got it out early on who thinks what of him, now he's quiet because he survived an eviction and he has a very good understanding who he like and who doesn't like him, i bet he'll keep his cool now and will get to the latter stages.

This is true, he is a very political animal and is playing a cold tactical game.

[Jordan.]

Originally Posted by karezza

Sunshine or Ben to win.

This!

[Jords]

Yepp, wouldnt mind Ben winning!

[starry]

Originally Posted by newspresenter

Clever Ben.

I don't think he is as clever as he thinks he is, and his constant insecurities could easily be his undoing. But really alot depends on the edits and how Endemol promote him. So far they have been very pro-Ben. If they turn against him they could destroy him.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by starry

I don't think he is as clever as he thinks he is, and his constant insecurities could easily be his undoing. But really alot depends on the edits and how Endemol promote him. So far they have been very pro-Ben. If they turn against him they could destroy him.

he isnt clever, his well educated and very political.

If he was at all clever he wouldnt keep getting caught

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by starry

I don't think he is as clever as he thinks he is.

FMs confuse being well-spoken with intelligence. He's a typical public schoolboy - can talk for forever but 99.9% of what comes out is a pile of inconsequential, meaningless crapola.

[newspresenter]

Originally Posted by starry

I don't think he is as clever as he thinks he is, and his constant insecurities could easily be his undoing. But really alot depends on the edits and how Endemol promote him. So far they have been very pro-Ben. If they turn against him they could destroy him.

I don't either, but channel 4 don't put 14 clever people in the house, that would be boring, so Ben and Josie have an edge over the other 10.
His 'insecurities' are fake, it was an act to workout who likes and dislikes him.
So long as he's not liked on the outside, and he hasn't broke BB rules, Endomol will big him up just to wind-up the viewing public. You don't want it all running smoothly do you, you want to get angry, get annoyed, whine, moan, laugh at, cry at, cringe at etc etc

[arsenalforever]

Originally Posted by starry

I'm gonna throw it out there - Sunshine to win BB11. More genuine and more fun than Ben.

she's apity case and he's had far better moments go check the odds i don't see sunshine shooting up

[Lee.]

I would like Ben to win.. He grows on me every day and is very very funny. (is it ok for me to have started finding him attractive?!)

[arsenalforever]

Originally Posted by happyland

I would like Ben to win.. He grows on me every day and is very very funny. (is it ok for me to have started finding him attractive?!)

a lof of women have been saying that

I just think he's my kind of Hm who makes me alugh
i don't like nasty or pity cases

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

a lof of women have been saying that

I just think he's my kind of Hm who makes me alugh
i don't like nasty or pity cases

Oh good.. that means I'm not, as I feared, a weirdo!

ANd yeah he is just a kind of bumbling gent who has no idea how funny he actually is !

[Lex]

Yep!!.....Ben's the man!

But should win! and Will win!....are seldom the same in big brother!!

I've a feeling that it will be one of the more 'false personalities' that wins!...Just like most years!

Probably....Corin or Ife!...or maybe even Steve will coast all the way to the winners rostrum without having to show any personality at all!

Either way!.....BEN's already the winner in my eyes!

[AndyJK]

Ben will be lucky to reach the final 4. It's going to be one of the inoffensive ones like Nathan or Corin who will win.

[dirtyvileHARRYuk]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

This will cause a lot of debate

he's been a great hm
why not he's given entertainment

the joe agrees < what i have seen of him so far < what a loverly guy.

[fizzii]

I hope he wins He seems like such a gentle soul. And he's always so polite.

I have a feeling he won't win - I expect someone like Corin will.

Shame.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by arsenalforever

i don't like nasty or pity cases

lol Arse, he is one of the most political cynical users in there, which makes him pretty 'nasty'.

There is a very good reason why he is shedding 'friends' all over the shop.

Not saying he isnt a good HM, but lets try and be a little objective about him