[NeoPhoenix]

The only double standard here, starry, is that you seem to think SS's behavior was justified because she is a woman and not a man. I guarantee if this was one of the guys JJ did this to, you wouldn't be harping all over JJ for it. I'm sure JJ was probably warned in the DR about this situation. Also if I recall correctly, Rodrigo didn't instigate the situation that led to him being carried to the pool either. Sunshine did. There's a big difference there.

[starry]

Originally Posted by NeoPhoenix

The only double standard here, starry, is that you seem to think SS's behavior was justified because she is a woman and not a man. I guarantee if this was one of the guys JJ did this to, you wouldn't be harping all over JJ for it. I'm sure JJ was probably warned in the DR about this situation. Also if I recall correctly, Rodrigo didn't instigate the situation that led to him being carried to the pool either. Sunshine did. There's a big difference there.

Rodrigo blew his temper in ways that Sunshine never has, he definitely did start alot of situations. Indeed he even threw a bottle of water (or something) at Charlie's head from what I remember. That is far more dangerous than sprinkling a bit of water at someone. It doesn't matter who starts the 'play' it matters who accelerates it into something unnecessarily aggressive. Some of them do get very physical with her by pulling her around and touching her up.

[NeoPhoenix]

Originally Posted by starry

Rodrigo blew his temper in ways that Sunshine never has, he definitely did start alot of situations. Indeed he even threw a bottle of water (or something) at Charlie's head from what I remember. That is far more dangerous than sprinkling a bit of water at someone. It doesn't matter who starts the 'play' it matters who accelerates it into something unnecessarily aggressive. Some of them do get very physical with her by pulling her around and touching her up.

I'm not defending every single thing Rodrigo did while he was in BB. What he did outside of the pool incident is irrelevant to this discussion. He started a lot of things in the house, but in the pool incident, he hadn't provoked anyone as far as I remember. That is the difference here. Rodrigo didn't provoke anyone in that situation, Sunshine did. She shouldn't get a free pass just because she happens to be female. I know a lot of women like SS who think they can do whatever they want to men without repercussions solely for the fact that they are female. I think it is BS personally. If you don't want to burn your hand, you don't put your hand on a hot stove. Likewise if you don't want to get dumped in the pool, don't throw water on JJ. End of story. You still have yet to admit that SS could have avoided the entire situation had she not thrown water all over JJ.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by NeoPhoenix

She shouldn't get a free pass just because she happens to be female. I know a lot of women like SS who think they can do whatever they want to men without repercussions solely for the fact that they are female.

what a load of rubbish, what about JJ's free pass? if he were a girl and played around with peoples emotions in the same way he'd be hated like rachael was.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

what a load of rubbish, what about JJ's free pass? if he were a girl and played around with peoples emotions in the same way he'd be hated like rachael was.

He doesn't play with sunshines's emotions .... she initiates all fooling around with JJ. She needs to come up with something better than dumping water on someone she has the hots for ..... . She has the emotional intelligence of a 10 year old and can't work out why everyone doesn't respond positively to her tantrums like her daddy does hehe

[NeoPhoenix]

Originally Posted by fruit_cake

what a load of rubbish, what about JJ's free pass? if he were a girl and played around with peoples emotions in the same way he'd be hated like rachael was.

I never said I liked JJ anywhere in this entire topic. In fact he annoys the piss out of me. But I can see past my like/dislike for SS and JJ and look at the situation from an objective viewpoint. I actually like SS most of the time and thought she got a bit bullied during the whole stupid crispgate thing, but this situation here is completely her fault as without her instigation, she never would have wound up in the pool. What is so hard to get about this?

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by NeoPhoenix

I never said I liked JJ anywhere in this entire topic. In fact he annoys the piss out of me. But I can see past my like/dislike for SS and JJ and look at the situation from an objective viewpoint. I actually like SS most of the time and thought she got a bit bullied during the whole stupid crispgate thing, but this situation here is completely her fault as without her instigation, she never would have wound up in the pool. What is so hard to get about this?

That may be true - but JJ is also responsible for his actions - and he shouldn't have been so gung ho in his response! All it required was a bit of tact on his part - clearly too much to ask of him! Maybe her biggest mistake was underestimating his stupidity!

[ange7]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

That may be true - but JJ is also responsible for his actions - and he shouldn't have been so gung ho in his response! All it required was a bit of tact on his part - clearly too much to ask of him! Maybe her biggest mistake was underestimating his stupidity!

"so gung ho what what!!" ...she knew JJ would man-handle her into the pool. He did it before and even warned her as much this time round. Lol at you for not knowing what SS motives were ...hehe

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by starry

Rodrigo blew his temper in ways that Sunshine never has, he definitely did start alot of situations. Indeed he even threw a bottle of water (or something) at Charlie's head from what I remember. That is far more dangerous than sprinkling a bit of water at someone. It doesn't matter who starts the 'play' it matters who accelerates it into something unnecessarily aggressive. Some of them do get very physical with her by pulling her around and touching her up.

I doubt EXTREMELY that anyone is brave or desperate enough to "TOUCH HER UP"Mikey Hughes turned her down so Im damn sure someone with JJ`s looks wont bother ,FFS