[pixee]

Well ben tried to have a conversation on a subject (in fairness to him he knows it wellish i would assume) and Nathan was on a soap box made from fist pumping and little else.

I think his concerns were valid and ones i share but to berate ben for trying to give him a counter argument and different perspective. Moron.

I didn't mind Nathan till tonight it must just be lack of smoking that has made him a bit snappy

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by pixee

Well ben tried to have a conversation on a subject (in fairness to him he knows it wellish i would assume) and Nathan was on a soap box made from fist pumping and little else.

I think his concerns were valid and ones i share but to berate ben for trying to give him a counter argument and different perspective. Moron.

I didn't mind Nathan till tonight it must just be lack of smoking that has made him a bit snappy

Well Nathan has just taken the headlines from newspapers.Ben is not good at explaining anything.
Fact: there are over 600 MPs, three are facing charges for doing something illegal. Ben was right to say the majority of MPs are honest.
Tony Blair told MPs they could not have a pay rise in 1997 because it would look bad even though the wage was too low for running 2 homes. He said they could use up to £25,000 in claims.
I absolutely do not believe that the majority of people in this country given that advise would not follow his advice.
People working for the BBC claim thousands a year in taxi fares

[Shiner]

Personally I'd like to hear more of Nat's revolutionary insights into contemporary politics.

A leading think tank has warned that increasing capital gains tax will result in Government revenues dropping by £2.5 billion. It suggested a rise in CGT to the same levels as income tax, at 40 or even 50 per cent, would lead to such damage to the economy that tax revenues would plummet. More than £7.8 billion in tax revenues came from CGT last year. The drop in revenue would be equivalent to 30,000 additional public or similar cuts, according to a study published by the Adam Smith Institute.

I wonder what Nat's view on the subject is?