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Do you deny that he claims to be able to cure people of such things as cancer (he has said this on BB) ??

Do you deny that he receives donations from members of his "congregation" ??

The proof is in what he has said himself on TV...
Do we have to go through this every day?
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You can't deny it can you...

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His fake laughter and OTT bubbliness. Annoying.

As is his sudden playfullness with Caoimhe. Both acting fake to save each other from eviction.

I don't even need to start with the bible stuff...
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I lost all respect for him after that business with Steve's leg offering to take it out of the prize money (Shabby was just as bad, mind you). It was so low.

He's an excellent gameplayer though, credit where credit is due.
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NO WAY ,he cons cancer patients ,should never have been allowed on bb to spew his bile
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His fake laughter and OTT bubbliness. Annoying.

As is his sudden playfullness with Caoimhe. Both acting fake to save each other from eviction.

I don't even need to start with the bible stuff...
"Fake bubbliness" says you with a photo of Corin !!! pot ......kettle ?
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You can't deny it can you...

Thank you.
I think the onus of proof lies with you, the prosecution!
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The New Ecstatics are a cult that deliberately and cynically targets vulnerable groups (with specific laungauge such as 'raves', jacked up', 'drunk') and solicits donations based on unproven claims of the supernatural and channeling God to heal.

As the head of this cult Dave is in the house promoting it and I personally have a problem with that.

I also personally hate their core message of 'don't think, don't do anything, just get drunk'.

The selling of God's power, if it exists, as just another intoxicant and to be used solely for personal ends seems a perverse twisting of the Bible to me.
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Do you deny that he claims to be able to cure people of such things as cancer (he has said this on BB) ??

Do you deny that he receives donations from members of his "congregation" ??

The proof is in what he has said himself on TV...
He hasnt claimed to be able to heal or cure anyone, he says God can heal and cure etc.

People donating is totally different than him charging money for or even asking for money for a service(healing).

Under the Consumer Protection laws that were extended last year to falsely claim a service like healing and receive payment for would render him liable to prosecution. There is no get out clause for religious based claims either.
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The New Ecstatics are a cult that deliberately and cynically targets vulnerable groups (with specific laungauge such as 'raves', jacked up', 'drunk') and solicits donations based on unproven claims of the supernatural and channeling God to heal.

As the head of this cult Dave is in the house promoting it and I personally have a problem with that.

I also personally hate their core message of 'don't think, don't do anything, just get drunk'.

The selling of God's power, if it exists, as just another intoxicant and to be used solely for personal ends seems a perverse twisting of the Bible to me.
Totally agree ,why is he allowed in there so raise cash for a sick cult ?
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The New Ecstatics are a cult that deliberately and cynically targets vulnerable groups (with specific laungauge such as 'raves', jacked up', 'drunk') and solicits donations based on unproven claims of the supernatural and channeling God to heal.

As the head of this cult Dave is in the house promoting it and I personally have a problem with that.

I also personally hate their core message of 'don't think, don't do anything, just get drunk'.

The selling of God's power, if it exists, as just another intoxicant and to be used solely for personal ends seems a perverse twisting of the Bible to me.
He is a contestant on a game show - you're not interviewing him for a job fgs!

I had never heard of him before he went on bb - and if his group were under any kind of investigation for dubious conduct - I'm sure we would have heard about it - and he wouldn't have applied to go on bb in the first place!

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I think the onus of proof lies with you, the prosecution!
No, the proof is what the buffoon has said HIMSELF on TV!
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He hasnt claimed to be able to heal or cure anyone, he says God can heal and cure etc.

People donating is totally different than him charging money for or even asking for money for a service(healing).

Under the Consumer Protection laws that were extended last year to falsely claim a service like healing and receive payment for would render him liable to prosecution. There is no get out clause for religious based claims either.
Utter BS !!!! HE said a woman came to one of his "shows"with a massive cancer on her face,he touched it ,next day it was gone .....HIS words not gods
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He is a contestant on a game show - you're not interviewing him for a job fgs!

I had never heard of him before he went on bb - and if his group were under any kind of investigation for dubious conduct - I'm sure we would have heard about it - and he wouldn't have applied to go on bb in the first place!
He is not just a "contestant on a game show" he is a contestant on a game show with an agenda to big up his fraudelent cult,who take money from cancer victims
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He hasnt claimed to be able to heal or cure anyone, he says God can heal and cure etc.

People donating is totally different than him charging money for or even asking for money for a service(healing).

Under the Consumer Protection laws that were extended last year to falsely claim a service like healing and receive payment for would render him liable to prosecution. There is no get out clause for religious based claims either.
Lol! That's scraping the barrel a bit isn't it??

Whether it is god himself doing the curing or not, it has to go through HIM!! Dave is the one laying his "healing hands" on them...

He is preying on the sick & vulnerable by suggesting he can cure them... Of course people are going to feel obliged to give him a donation...

The man is sick.
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Lol! That's scraping the barrel a bit isn't it??

Whether it is god himself doing the curing or not, it has to go through HIM!! Dave is the one laying his "healing hands" on them...

He is preying on the sick & vulnerable by suggesting he can cure them... Of course people are going to feel obliged to give him a donation...

The man is sick.
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DAVE is spending our DOSH!!!! Thats why!!!!!
I hate DAVE. SLYIER THAT SLYIVASH.
I think he may make it to the FINAL like Mohammed BB9!!!!!!
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A gameshow he has entered based on his character and motivations. I reserve the right to examine them both as part of it.

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"Fake bubbliness" says you with a photo of Corin !!! pot ......kettle ?
She doesn't roll about laughing at the slightest joke or playfight with HMs she can't stand. Thanks.

And her upbeat nature isnt fake, actually.
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Lol! That's scraping the barrel a bit isn't it??

Whether it is god himself doing the curing or not, it has to go through HIM!! Dave is the one laying his "healing hands" on them...

He is preying on the sick & vulnerable by suggesting he can cure them... Of course people are going to feel obliged to give him a donation...

The man is sick.
If he really believes that - he isn't conning anyone. Lots of well-known, established religions believe in the power of God's healing - doesn't mean they are dishonest or mad! What about the hundreds of thousands, if not millions, who travel to Mecca and Lourdes every year! Of course there are a lot of Fraud's about, doesn't mean he is one of them - maybe just mis-guided and over-zealous due to his religious beliefs! Talk about a witch hunt!
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Totally agree ,why is he allowed in there so raise cash for a sick cult ?
I think it's because they yet havent actively broken any laws. It seems people think that if they havent then they must be ethically sound.

I don't think anyone who has done any reading of cults and how they potentiolly destroy lives (which has been historically proven) would defend the promotion of the New Ecstatics by C4.
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She doesn't roll about laughing at the slightest joke or playfight with HMs she can't stand. Thanks.

And her upbeat nature isnt fake, actually.
Or pretend to be pissed on the love of god...
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Nothing I have said about his cult is untrue though.
Yes it is. The thing is, I know him personally and have done for ten years, you've seen him on a Tv show.

God heals people, get over it.
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