[tintedshadow]

Originally Posted by vesavius

The jealousy thing is half the problem, and I admit fully that she has been playing that game somewhat herself.

The other half of the situation is the way that her 'friend' Caoimhe, with no attraction to JJ herself, has used her flirting with him to deliberatly wind Josie up with smirks, smug looks, and obviously targetted under her breath comments. This has p1ssed Josie off as much as the jealosy because Josie sees it as pretty much a betrayal after she gave Caoimhe her hand in friendship when Shabby left.

It is exactly the same caoimhe we have seen since day 1 though, but some have short memories and a week of rising Josie's coat tails has made a lot of people forget.

Very little of the second half of all this has been shown though, so, to be fair, most arnt even aware of it.

i dont think caoimhe is deliberatly trying to get at josie though,aside from the fact josie was doing that with jj,caoimhe has alligned herself with jj and josie since shabby left,they speak and get along well,i dont see why josie has an issue with jj talking to her when josie berates john more time when he's not around.. caoimhe isnt actually toying with jj or even overly flirting with jj imo..

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by tintedshadow

i dont think caoimhe is deliberatly trying to get at josie though,aside from the fact josie was doing that with jj,caoimhe has alligned herself with jj and josie since shabby left,they speak and get along well,i dont see why josie has an issue with jj talking to her when josie berates john more time when he's not around.. caoimhe isnt actually toying with jj or even overly flirting with jj imo..

I am not saying this to dismiss your opinions or anything, but do you watch a lot of LF?

[tintedshadow]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I am not saying this to dismiss your opinions or anything, but do you watch a lot of LF?

not usually tbf but i do tune in on occasion,like yesterday they were all cuddling up to each other,josie was all snuggled up with jj and caoimhe was with mario then snuggled up with john,but then snuggled up to josie so i dont see it like she's all over john.. i take your point thought perhaps theres something you guys are seeing that i am not,but from where i am josie spent her time with andrew and plays the hard done by fat bird who's lusting over someone who she thinks is out of her league,but then she spends her time talking about how much of a knob he is,and how he bitches too much,as if she doesnt.. i take it you are a fan of josie and so choose not to believe she is far worst than john or caoimhe?

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by tintedshadow

not usually tbf but i do tune in on occasion,like yesterday they were all cuddling up to each other,josie was all snuggled up with jj and caoimhe was with mario then snuggled up with john,but then snuggled up to josie so i dont see it like she's all over john.. i take your point thought perhaps theres something you guys are seeing that i am not,but from where i am josie spent her time with andrew and plays the hard done by fat bird who's lusting over someone who she thinks is out of her league,but then she spends her time talking about how much of a knob he is,and how he bitches too much,as if she doesnt.. i take it you are a fan of josie and so choose not to believe she is far worst than john or caoimhe?

I do like Josie, yeah, but I do fully admit that her jealosy in this is out of control and half the problem. I am not trying to remove the blame from her, merely see it spread around those who deserve it.

I think if you watched Caoimhe, and indeed many situations, with an open mind on LF you see things differently. It's hard to form a rounded unbalanced opinion off the HLs and the official website.

I don't expect you to trust me, but Caoimhe knows exactly whats going on, just as she did with Shabby, and is playing it for her own amusement. It's just a shame that amusement involves sh1tting on a friends trust by openly flirting with a bloke that he dosent even fancy herself.

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I do like Josie, yeah, but I do fully admit that her jealosy in this is out of control and half the problem. I am not trying to remove the blame from her, merely see it spread around those who deserve it.

I think if you watched Caoimhe, and indeed many situations, with an open mind on LF you see things differently. It's hard to form a rounded unbalanced opinion off the HLs and the official website.

I don't expect you to trust me, but Caoimhe knows exactly whats going on, just as she did with Shabby, and is playing it for her own amusement. It's just a shame that amusement involves sh1tting on a friends trust by openly flirting with a bloke that he dosent even fancy herself.

But she has spent hours talking to him this morning and there is absolutely no flirting going on. Once again it is all about noms.
When are we going to get housemates stopped from talking nominations.

[tintedshadow]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I do like Josie, yeah, but I do fully admit that her jealosy in this is out of control and half the problem. I am not trying to remove the blame from her, merely see it spread around those who deserve it.

I think if you watched Caoimhe, and indeed many situations, with an open mind on LF you see things differently. It's hard to form a rounded unbalanced opinion off the HLs and the official website.

I don't expect you to trust me, but Caoimhe knows exactly whats going on, just as she did with Shabby, and is playing it for her own amusement. It's just a shame that amusement involves sh1tting on a friends trust by openly flirting with a bloke that he dosent even fancy herself.

yeah my opinion isnt solely based on the HL show,also i dont check the official website,but from what ive seen,i dont see it as flirting,simply as two friends who speak on a level,just as john hugs andrew,or lays on dave,he's just a touchy feely type of lad,also caiomhe and him speak and have a mutual respect for each other,so what is just two grown adults enjoying one another's company is it not possible that its just as innocent as that?

also my point about josie was more so,aside from the fact she flirts with who she wants,she does not have dibs on john,if she did then she would lay off other lads and exclusively be his,but she isnt,so why should he? furthermore jj speaking to keeley was out of the question for josie too,its not about any individual josie just wants john to herself,and thats never gonna be the case..

you will probably completely disagree with my next point entirely but meh,i personally dont think caoimhe even mislead shabby in to thinking anything that wasnt true.. shabby knew the score,once caoimhe says im not interested it was clear to all (although her necking on shabby wasnt the best move but i think she was drunk at the time).. like no one comments on caoimhe kissing keeley's neck,snogged mario on friday just gone,so she's a bit of a good time girl,nothing more... imo i should add lol

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by tintedshadow

yeah my opinion isnt solely based on the HL show,also i dont check the official website,but from what ive seen,i dont see it as flirting,simply as two friends who speak on a level,just as john hugs andrew,or lays on dave,he's just a touchy feely type of lad,also caiomhe and him speak and have a mutual respect for each other,so what is just two grown adults enjoying one another's company is it not possible that its just as innocent as that?

Nah, I am sorry, I do watch a lot of HM (I work from home and have it on in the background) and I see a completely different caoimhe to you.

I see her smirking and pushing buttons, entertaining herself at the expense of others.

Originally Posted by tintedshadow

also my point about josie was more so,aside from the fact she flirts with who she wants,she does not have dibs on john,if she did then she would lay off other lads and exclusively be his,but she isnt,so why should he? furthermore jj speaking to keeley was out of the question for josie too,its not about any individual josie just wants john to herself,and thats never gonna be the case..

No, I agree that Josie has no dibbs.

But for Caoimhe to deliberatly flirt with a guy that she knows her 'friend' in into, even though she has no interest in him herself, for her own entertainment is just nasty.

It's just clearly saying 'I can have him off you anytime', while smugly smirking at them, and is a very malicious way to act, especially to a friend.

[tintedshadow]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Nah, I am sorry, I do watch a lot of HM (I work from home and have it on in the background) and I see a completely different caoimhe to you.

I see her smirking and pushing buttons, entertaining herself at the expense of others.



No, I agree that Josie has no dibbs.

But for Caoimhe to deliberatly flirt with a guy that she knows her 'friend' in into, even though she has no interest in him herself, for her own entertainment is just nasty.

It's just clearly saying 'I can have him off you anytime', while smugly smirking at them, and is a very malicious way to act, especially to a friend.

again i dont think its that black and white,for instance caoimhe does have that kind of face where it may portray an innocent act of friendship to look a little more sinister..

but to be real with you bro,josie hasnt said much except i kind of fancy him,oh wait now i dont,oh maybe i do,so their isnt really anything for her to complain about should caoimhe even choose to flirt with john.. with that said,she was one of the few helping josie with the whole john situation in the first place,so to say she's nasty just because she speaks to someone who she gets along with in the house is a little silly,josie has free reign to speak and act how she wants,flashing andrew at any given moment,putting her arms round him.. so whats wrong with caoimhe speaking to john?personally i dont think its that bad as is being made out..

[tintedshadow]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Nah, I am sorry, I do watch a lot of HM (I work from home and have it on in the background) and I see a completely different caoimhe to you.

I see her smirking and pushing buttons, entertaining herself at the expense of others.



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also could i just make it a little more clear for you,i know caoimhe is a pretty ignorant smug housemate,i just call it how i see it,i dont let my personal view on any given housemate cloud my judgement (not that im saying you are btw lol )