[carbonfinger]

Hi I am a PA to one of the producers to the show big brother and... no bad joke, ok.

Joking aside it's clear this year is pretty tame but it's not too late to fix it but it is really starting to push it, what are some of the ways they could fix the show? I've come up with a few ideas of my own.

-1)
They needed to learn from last years mistakes. The amount of times someone has threatened to walk this year is disgusting and ruins any tension in the show. Each house mate should of been guaranteed 5k or something around about that amount as long as they make it to eviction or have a tired system depending on how long they manage to survive till the final and subtract from their personal funds for rule breaking etc..

It is clear that there is a lack of motivation in the house and they are taking it completely for granted that they have even managed to make it into the house (which is pretty much a competition in itself). Maybe some are not motivated by money but in previous years it was the lure of fame that motivated them obviously there is less tabloid interest in the HM’s so there is less incentive in this sense.


-2)
This whole fight for survival crap. It was a funny unique twist at first but by making it the norm week on week they have really ruined the eviction process for me. The amount of times I have wanted to vote Dave off but be denied that chance because he has some how managed to save his sorry self.

That’s just what the problem was; it started of unique and new but by making it a weekly thing they have just turned it into something pretty boring and really annoying. They should of kept it for special occasions such as more than 2 house mates nominated or rule breaking etc…

-3)
The third point at the top of my head is the house mates.
They are a pretty boring bunch this year obviously not the worst ever but there are no strong personalities that really stand out. Shabby just annoyed the hell out of me but at least she made me feel something, everyone left now is boreville.
I know they don’t know what kind of people they put in and how they will act once in the house but to put in an alcoholic, obnoxious, boring self righteous, preaching Christian? Then to make matters worse when they have a chance to put some really interesting people in there (or just some female/male eye candy, a circus clown, Siamese twins… anything!) what do they do instead? Put in a boring maths student!!!

Cant really be ass writing any more I’ve given up on the show and I think the producers have too but please share your ideas with me would be interesting to see how people think it can be saved.

[Zippy]

Agreed.

Boring selection of HMs. They seem to be avoiding conflict for some boring reason.

And the nominations have been completey ruined by the S&R task. Now we never even know who's up after noms revealed...have to wait until the stupid task! And why the hell should the task winner get such power? Just wrong IMO. Its enough theyve been saved from eviction.

More alcohol. More outspoken HMs. More drama.

[Strictly Jake]

Dont think it can be. Im just gonna stick with it to the end. I think its just because the people are more normal this year. Which is good because I have been able to identify and sympathise with many situations that have happened in the house. But I want my entertaining people like nikki. Thats what I prefer bb housemates to be like. But its gone more back to being a social experiment which it was supposed to be. It hasnt been bad but it certainly hasnt been great. Its a good job we have all stars to look forward to

[stonedape]

said it before, I'll say it again, in the end it 100% comes down to cast. You could film 14 interesting people in one white room with no twist for weeks and you would have an amazing BB. You could film 14 monotonous people in a sweet house with tons of interesting twists and you would still have an awful BB.

They just totally dropped the ball with the cast this year. I don't know what they were smoking but I doubt it was green.


ETA: At this point, there is no twist or amount of intruders that can save them. The only thing we can hope for is mental breakdown.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

Who are you pa to and how is that relevant to this discussion?

[carbonfinger]

Originally Posted by stonedape

said it before, I'll say it again, in the end it 100% comes down to cast. You could film 14 interesting people in one white room with no twist for weeks and you would have an amazing BB. You could film 14 monotonous people in a sweet house with tons of interesting twists and you would still have an awful BB.

They just totally dropped the ball with the cast this year. I don't know what they were smoking but I doubt it was green.

Yeah I agree that it is 95% down to who they initially put in the house. The people aren't clicking together and it was obvious from day one that even the people who were 'friends' were only so through convenience. There are no real genuine friendships and they all seem awkward with each other.

BUT there are things that they still could have done/do to rectify this. The biggest chance that they had was when they put 3 new house mates in and they even blew that!

[starry]

Sunshine and Govan shouldn't have been allowed to go so early. There is just too much bias from the start in favour of some HMs. So they wanted to make Josie and Corin into the good girls, and Sunshine into the bad one. They wanted to make Ben nice and Govan as the only person bitching. They are so obsessed with showmances that they allow HMs to dictate what happens, as when Keeva and Shabby both threatened to walk if the other was evicted. Some people are tired of manipulations like this and want to see more reality. Walkers should not be given the kind of good treatment they get.

To liven this show up now they need some big twists. Something involving evicted HMs to stir up the house would be great (not the walkers, they had their chance). They should put in more new HMs, but big unusual characters who will stir things up. Don't let some of the HMs in there feel they are running the show.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

Who are you pa to and how is that relevant to this discussion?

look at you whoring your eye about just incase it is someone in touch with bb producers
(which after reading that post i seriously doubt)

[Frank E]

Big

Red

Switch

[psychtracker]

...obviously it's too late, but here's a few suggestions...

- AGREE, pay all contestants MORE MONEY!! (so, less walkers...also might motivate many more pple to apply), I heard the HMs say they get 30 quid per day...which sounds laughable to me!! even the 100K prize money i find minimal...personally i wouldn't even appear on BB and expose myself for 100K! In Australia (our seasons have finished)...but they had $1 million dollar prize money (550K quid)..for at least a couple seasons. And we probably had a quarter of the sponsorship and viewership! sorry, but 100K seems tightarse to me...

- 92 Days (or i think this year is slightly less, i believe is TOO long), seems to me the HMs start getting quite bored around 30-50 days, and get stuck into many usual routines, from then on they seem to be just hanging in their till the end. Have 2x 45 day seasons per year, or if they insist on having a marathon, maybe they should have tried something extravagant like - never introducing any NEW HMs to till at least half way through, then when there's approx 8 Orig HMs left, take em out of the compound into an entirely new BB house with 8 NEW HMs and a completely new set of rules.

- TOO MANY TASKS, seems like there's some sort of crappy task every day...sometimes i see on livefeed there's an interesting conversation going on, real tension, or an argument...and it's broken up by some silly task a 12 yr could have invented!

- Definitely they should have tried an entire season with SAVE ONLY VOTING.

[eye sea]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Agreed.

Boring selection of HMs. They seem to be avoiding conflict for some boring reason.

And the nominations have been completey ruined by the S&R task. Now we never even know who's up after noms revealed...have to wait until the stupid task! And why the hell should the task winner get such power? Just wrong IMO. Its enough theyve been saved from eviction.

More alcohol. More outspoken HMs. More drama.

Good post. Just about sums up what's wrong with this year's BB, which lets face hasn't been very good.

[sosadbbend]

I think the best ever twist on BB was the rich house /poor house, I think it was Jade Goody's year. I think if twists work really well they can be repeated.

Supporting Ben, Josie and JJ.

[Visage]

Originally Posted by starry

Sunshine and Govan shouldn't have been allowed to go so early.

What about Rachael, Nathan & Ife ? Was it OK that they went too, or didn't you like them enough?

Hey next there will be comments about not having eviction nights until at least 6 weeks into the show.

Good job Big Brother is ending, all these conspiracies will send some people into some form of meltdown.


Stop these evictions right now, it's all a conspiracy

[Visage]

Originally Posted by starry

They are so obsessed with showmances .

While some are obsessed with conspiracies, what is this world coming to ?

[fruit_cake]

i hope they have a few 'vote to saves' that way we can get rid of the bores

[carbonfinger]

Originally Posted by psychtracker

...obviously it's too late, but here's a few suggestions...

- 92 Days (or i think this year is slightly less, i believe is TOO long), seems to me the HMs start getting quite bored around 30-50 days, and get stuck into many usual routines, from then on they seem to be just hanging in their till the end.
When there's approx 8 Orig HMs left, take em out of the compound into an entirely new BB house with 8 NEW HMs and a completely new set of rules.

- TOO MANY TASKS, seems like there's some sort of crappy task every day...sometimes i see on livefeed there's an interesting conversation going on, real tension, or an argument...and it's broken up by some silly task a 12 yr could have invented!

Strongly agree with these two points.The hidden second house idea is a great way to mix things up, stop them from getting bored and a great change of environment for the viewers and HMs. And different rules to mix fix up (but to be honest why do they bother having rules when they are constantly broken with no consequence?)

Clearly the're running out of ideas for original tasks... tights tug of war?! Less tasks and when they do have a task there should be a lot more waging on it than a shopping budget which they blow on fags any way.

[starry]

Originally Posted by Visage

What about Rachael, Nathan & Ife ? Was it OK that they went too, or didn't you like them enough?

Hey next there will be comments about not having eviction nights until at least 6 weeks into the show.

Good job Big Brother is ending, all these conspiracies will send some people into some form of meltdown.


Stop these evictions right now, it's all a conspiracy

Me and someone else already did threads about leaving evictions till later in the series so that we can see things develop more normally in the house.

I don't think Nathan, Rachael and Ife brought as much to the house, though Rachael was only in for one week i guess.

[cell]

this season is non- redeemable, end it early and hope for the best in Allstars

[rapunza1977]

Here they need to do something quick it's dying on it's erse!

Look what we are left with!

We will sleep it to the final

[oddballmisfitsFTW]

in a way problem with BB is similiar to England FAIL at world cup

who is to blame for this year's disappointing series? BB or the HMs

who is to blame for England's woeful performces at world cup? Capello or the players?

Its a mixture of both for BB (and England).

HMs this year are definitely more boring as a whole than previous years.

Steve summed up his worth the other night when they all having a laugh with a food fight "dont throw food around!" he yelled sat on his arse in the living room

Dave doesnt approve of any fun that can be seen as overly sexual.

Ben is very lazy and isnt the type to let loose and have any kind of physical fun.

JJ is one of the HMs who should be up for a laugh, but he is more interested in sitting down, having a bitch, a moan and discussing dynamics.

Josie is just lazy and didnt even join in the fun at the pary the other night. Just moped around in that stupid dressing gown.

If they bring in new HMs they should be under 25, want to have fun and be preparded to ignore Steve, Ben and the rest. Then they can have fun in garden, living room, pool and bedroom. This will also cause conflicts which will be entertaining.

BB have failed because they have not been EVIL enough. They should dish out harsh punishments. The tasks need to be VERY CHALLENGING with overnight tasks as well

AND GIVE THEM MORE ALCOHOL

[cell]

Good observations, I also noticed it seems the house mates are "afraid" to have fun because there is always a killjoy around to cut it down. The bed fort thing pissed off Steve and Corin, food fight got Steve pipped up again, bath fun made Dave uncomfortable, Ife dancing got "cringed" on by Keeva/Shabby. List goes on.

This season has been very "dry" alcohol wise. I'm not saying get them pissed every night but give them some wine at dinner or evening beers just to loosen them up a bit. Very few alcohol parties, theme parties, fun parties in general.
There is also the case of the editing which just drags the same topics on and on and on much like JJ's arguments. A few nights ago Highlights was good because there was more just short clips of the house mates doing little random funny things which made the show much more enjoyable and light and less tedious with the JJJ theme BB seems intent on shoving down our throats, day after day. Yesterdays HL's went on for 2 min before Josie was talking and it was obviously about JJ, it didn't need any explanation the theme is so predictable
If the editing improved I think the HL's would be more amusing overall, many people have said much more happens in LF that doesn't get into HL's for no reason other then the editing process.