[Parmy]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

I'm not blaming Caiomhe for her insecurities, I'm saying that Josie obviously saw her as being disloyal about an emotional subject.

Can you entirely blame Josie for her leaving, even though she never integrated fully within the house from day one, and had issues with being there ever since the argument with Ife?

Can you blame Josie for Caiomhe not being very popular within the house, even tough Caiomhe bitched and moaned and had many seperate issues with people way before this latest thing with JJ and Josie? Becuase that what I;ve been reading here....Josie copping the entire blame for Caiomhe leaving, and getting her own way... I dont think a single person IN THAT HOUSE sees it that way and they're all living together...it drives me nuts that people just watching think they know better.

I can partly blame josie for keevas demise with her fellow housemates, due to her slating her to each and every one of them.

Do I blame josie for her leaving? No not at all, Infact i take my hat off to keeva for having the strength and guts to follow through on her request to leave, I just wish josie would grow a set and follow suit, but she won't, she will just threaten to a few more times if she thinks she is out off the centre when it comes to the attention meter.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by ange7

Argue something!!!! hehehe

ok

Josie did nothing wrong. She reacted to a deliberate provocation and piss take by a so called 'friend', and she has every right to have a right old bitch about it.

While I fully admit she got jealous and that was half of the issue for her, the other half was clearly (for those who operate off more then the forums and HL shows or want to see it with any truth) the fact that a 'friend', who knew she has feelings for a bloke, made a move on that bloke (when she wasnt even interested in him) just to say 'I can have him anytime' and for her own amusement.

In short, Caomhe got her kicks from belittling Josie, while smirking and muttering in front of her, with regards to JJ. Josie felt betrayed by someone she had offered the hand of friendship to, and I do not blame her. She had every right to feel offended and had every right to pull Caoimhe up on it.

And you all support Caoimhe in all that? You all honestly wouldnt have been pissed off if your so called 'friend' had done the same to you? Really?



Even with this aside, Caoimhe has been talking about leaving for a long time (even letting her first 'friend' walk before changing her mind) and clearly gave her reasons for going as being her fear for her relationship based on her actions in the house (HER actions).

The bottom line is, why would Caoimhe be scared that her BF thought that she looked like a flirt and a bitch if she herself didnt think she had been a flirt and a bitch and hadnt crossed a line?

The truth is that she knows she was hated in that house, 7 nom speaks a clear story, and that she knew she had stuck the knife into one of her two only friends in there. She had burned her last bridge.

She knew she was gonna be up, she knew she was gonna go, so she jumped before she was pushed in an effort to protect her own ego.

[fitz2k2]

she will feel the wrath of big brother audience

[ange7]

Originally Posted by InOne

Josie let the house get the better of her really. No way would she have reacted like that a few weeks ago. Josie knew full and well JJ was not interested in her and they've never had a sexual connection. Josie should just have left it really. Hope she picks up again.

Josie won't bounce back. She need to feel sympathy and feel the victim. Before Keeva it was JJ who she rubbished all over town. Then Keeva made a mistake by asking for more alcohol and taking Josie's craziness lightly. From then JJ got a break as Josie made Keeva the "attacker" in her victim fantasy. Now that Keeva is out JJ will be back in her sights.

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I can partly blame josie for keevas demise with her fellow housemates, due to her slating her to each and every one of them.

Do I blame josie for her leaving? No not at all, Infact i take my hat off to keeva for having the strength and guts to follow through on her request to leave, I just wish josie would grow a set and follow suit, but she won't, she will just threaten to a few more times if she thinks she is out off the centre when it comes to the attention meter.

I wish I was psychic like you

I agree with you about her leaving though, fair play to her that she actually did it this time...like I said on another thread all that threatening and never doing it is a bit embarrassing really...and I apply that to any housemate.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by vesavius

ok

Josie did nothing wrong. She reacted to a deliberate provocation and piss take by a so called 'friend', and she has every right to have a right old bitch about it.

While I fully admit she got jealous and that was half of the issue for her, the other half was clearly (for those who operate off more then the forums and HL shows or want to see it with any truth) the fact that a 'friend', who knew she has feelings for a bloke, made a move on that bloke (when she wasnt even interested in him) just to say 'I can have him anytime' and for her own amusement.

In short, Caomhe got her kicks from belittling Josie, while smirking and muttering in front of her, with regards to JJ. Josie felt betrayed by someone she had offered the hand of friendship to, and I do not blame her. She had every right to feel offended and had every right to pull Caoimhe up on it.

And you all support Caoimhe in all that? You all honestly wouldnt have been pissed off if your so called 'friend' had done the same to you? Really?



Even with this aside, Caoimhe has been talking about leaving for a long time (even letting her first 'friend' walk before changing her mind) and clearly gave her reasons for going as being her fear for her relationship based on her actions in the house (HER actions).

The bottom line is, why would Caoimhe be scared that her BF thought that she looked like a flirt and a bitch if she herself didnt think she had been a flirt and a bitch and hadnt crossed a line?

The truth is that she knows she was hated in that house, 7 nom speaks a clear story, and that she knew she had stuck the knife into one of her two only friends in there. She had burned her last bridge.

She knew she was gonna be up, she knew she was gonna go, so she jumped before she was pushed in an effort to protect her own ego.

thats better, i'll get to your bottom line quote bit....when it comes to her worried about her boyfriend when she didn't think she did anything wrong, she obviously has a lot more to think about than that, ie, her parents, and especially her boyfriends parents, that, compiled with everything else minced her head, wheres your empathy for heavens sake!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by charmingmissc

the house mates live with her 24/7.

surely they know her better than anyone.

and they all seem to support her.

No they don't - they can be too close to see the truth! As I said in another thread - hms from previous bb shows have come out shocked that the public's perception of a hm was completely different to theirs!

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by parmnion

thats better, i'll get to your bottom line quote bit....when it comes to her worried about her boyfriend when she didn't think she did anything wrong, she obviously has a lot more to think about than that, ie, her parents, and especially her boyfriends parents, that, compiled with everything else minced her head, wheres your empathy for heavens sake!

So Caiomhe deserves empathy but Josie doesnt?

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

I wish I was psychic like you

I agree with you about her leaving though, fair play to her that she actually did it this time...like I said on another thread all that threatening and never doing it is a bit embarrassing really...and I apply that to any housemate.

Oh you don't have to be psychic to know josie will be straight in the diary room snuffling for sympathy the next time she has a fall out with jj. she's the only girl I know to have ten periods in 6 weeks!!

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

So Caiomhe deserves empathy but Josie doesnt?

yes, josie goes looking for it while keeva doesn't thats the difference.

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Oh you don't have to be psychic to know josie will be straight in the diary room snuffling for sympathy the next time she has a fall out with jj. she's the only girl I know to have ten periods in 6 weeks!!

So when Josie goes to the diary room its for sympathy but when Caiomhe does it it's something else?

Why ffs? They are ALL people, why does one housemate deserve the human treatment while another doesnt?

[Talulabelle]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Josie has become really pathetic,I got sick at least a week ago when her real stalking of JJ came stronger.Her constant ''Am I being stupid, I am being stupid arnt I, should I say something, no, I just leave it, no I will say something to her, oh I wish I hadnt' said that, I should have left it, should I have left it.what did she say, what did he say, I should go and ask sbouldn't I, no I wont ask, they can tell me, no I am going to ask what she said, oh I think I've upset her now, I dont want to upset anyone, I should have left it, I feel bad now''....on and on and on she goes but to near lal the other housemates, knowint they will tell the person she is on about at the time and they in turn will get it to JJ who will then find out whats happening from Josie.She is the most devious, manipulating,obsessional stalking bunny boiler on BB,even worse than Michelle Bass.The quiet tone to her voice she uses is now very grating, she is pathetic and she is going to look a right idiot at the end of this BB series,she will cringe when she looks back over it and all for a man who does NOT really want her at all and who will drop her like a hot brick once he is out the house. She has gone from being an entertaining housemate to a sad delusional and obsessed individual who looks like she wants to OWN someone,in this case JJ.If ever there was one then she is a woman to run miles from rather than run to.

OOOOooohhh I just love it when someone sums up exactly what I want to say without me having to go to the trouble of contributing, thanks mate x

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by rapunza1977

HOLD ON? So...........KEEEEEEEVA has not rubbished anyone in that house? She bitched left right and ceentre in that house - she tried isolating Sunshine / Nathan / Corin / she would given half the chance and Ife ?

What is this weird stance people take where effectively they reason that because Caoimhe was a bitch that means Josie hasn't been.

Yes Caoimhe was a bitch to Sunshine, the others you mention i don't agree with, though she has bitched about her dislike of them but hasn't done much more than that.

Josie has also been a bitch. She's quite the little liar too, something that riles me in a hm. Her OTT reaction to Caoimhe's flirting shocked me tbh as i didn't think she was capable of being such a manipulative cowbag.

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

So when Josie goes to the diary room its for sympathy but when Caiomhe does it it's something else?

Why ffs? They are ALL people, why does one housemate deserve the human treatment while another doesnt?

If you take josies actions in the house when something happens to her, she will go all around the house looking and finding people she can moan at about the situation,i take that as looking for sympathy, so I'm assuming it's a safe bet thats why she goes in the diaryroom.

I'm also assuming keeva goes to the diary room to vent her anger, not to gain sympathy.

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by parmnion

yes, josie goes looking for it while keeva doesn't thats the difference.

Apart from the diary room where did Caiomhe have to go for sympathy? She'd closed herself off to pretty much everyone in there, apart from JJ who she regularly sought out....and Josie

[watchinittoomuch]

Originally Posted by parmnion

If you take josies actions in the house when something happens to her, she will go all around the house looking and finding people she can moan at about the situation,i take that as looking for sympathy, so I'm assuming it's a safe bet thats why she goes in the diaryroom.

I'm also assuming keeva goes to the diary room to vent her anger, not to gain sympathy.

Well assumptions dont make fact.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by parmnion

yes, josie goes looking for it while keeva doesn't thats the difference.

Agreed!

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Says you. Hardly a neutral observer. Thats whats fundamentally wrong with your assessments...YOU ARE PREJUDICED.

Considering I've wasted Ł20 on josie winning, I'm far from prejudiced against her.

What I am is dissapointed, shocked, aghast and feel a sense of betrayal and I have the horrible feeling that I have been cheated by someone who doesn't even know herself.

[Merry Mockmas]

the bunny boiler left yesterday morning.

[ange7]

Originally Posted by vesavius

ok

Josie did nothing wrong. She reacted to a deliberate provocation and piss take by a so called 'friend', and she has every right to have a right old bitch about it.

While I fully admit she got jealous and that was half of the issue for her, the other half was clearly (for those who operate off more then the forums and HL shows or want to see it with any truth) the fact that a 'friend', who knew she has feelings for a bloke, made a move on that bloke (when she wasnt even interested in him) just to say 'I can have him anytime' and for her own amusement.

In short, Caomhe got her kicks from belittling Josie, while smirking and muttering in front of her, with regards to JJ. Josie felt betrayed by someone she had offered the hand of friendship to, and I do not blame her. She had every right to feel offended and had every right to pull Caoimhe up on it.

And you all support Caoimhe in all that? You all honestly wouldnt have been pissed off if your so called 'friend' had done the same to you? Really?



Even with this aside, Caoimhe has been talking about leaving for a long time (even letting her first 'friend' walk before changing her mind) and clearly gave her reasons for going as being her fear for her relationship based on her actions in the house (HER actions).

The bottom line is, why would Caoimhe be scared that her BF thought that she looked like a flirt and a bitch if she herself didnt think she had been a flirt and a bitch and hadnt crossed a line?

The truth is that she knows she was hated in that house, 7 nom speaks a clear story, and that she knew she had stuck the knife into one of her two only friends in there. She had burned her last bridge.

She knew she was gonna be up, she knew she was gonna go, so she jumped before she was pushed in an effort to protect her own ego.

"She reacted to a deliberate provocation and piss take by a so called 'friend', and she has every right to have a right old bitch about it."
No this isn't true. There was no deliberate provocation. Josie sees EVERYTHING as a provocation or an attack. The slightest thing is enough for her to weep at Corin and Ben's feet. I saw NO provocation from Keeva.

"a 'friend', who knew she has feelings for a bloke"
There was no move. Again this is Josie talk. It was some harmless fun that meant nothing to anyone. Josie complained about Keevas tits being out but Josie threw 2 buckets of water on her chest. Josie knew Keeva was p*ssed but CHOSE to think the worst instead of the best. Josie has form in this area, and it feeds her "poor me" addiction.

"Caomhe got her kicks from belittling Josie, while smirking and muttering in front of her"
There was no belittling. YOU saying there was ISN'T enough proof to make it so. SHe ONCE had a laugh WITH Josie about the alcohol with JJ in the bath but that was clearly Keeva laughing with Josie to get her out of that stupid downer Josie was on OVER NOTHING again.

"She knew she was gonna be up, she knew she was gonna go, so she jumped before she was pushed in an effort to protect her own ego."
Keeva said "I can't stay in this house if Josie thinks I tried to steal her man, that's pathetic". She wasn't on the way out .... Josie stabbed and stabbed every chance she got with ANYONE that came near. After that it was impossible for her to stay when all were blanking her after hearing Josie's "porkies".

[Parmy]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

Well assumptions dont make fact.

If they were all facts there wouldn't be much to discuss would there!!!!!

[Zippy]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

the bunny boiler left yesterday morning.

Good riddance too!

Dreary, ungrateful HM and devious snake. Quitters are losers IMHO.

[Merry Mockmas]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Good riddance too!

Dreary, ungrateful HM and devious snake. Quitters are losers IMHO.

agreed i think its selfish.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by watchinittoomuch

Apart from the diary room where did Caiomhe have to go for sympathy? She'd closed herself off to pretty much everyone in there, apart from JJ who she regularly sought out....and Josie

She didn't seek him out for sympathy though did she?

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by ange7

"She reacted to a deliberate provocation and piss take by a so called 'friend', and she has every right to have a right old bitch about it."
No this isn't true. There was no deliberate provocation. Josie sees EVERYTHING as a provocation or an attack. The slightest thing is enough for her to weep at Corin and Ben's feet. I saw NO provocation from Keeva.

"a 'friend', who knew she has feelings for a bloke"
There was no move. Again this is Josie talk. It was some harmless fun that meant nothing to anyone. Josie complained about Keevas tits being out but Josie threw 2 buckets of water on her chest. Josie knew Keeva was p*ssed but CHOSE to think the worst instead of the best. Josie has form in this area, and it feeds her "poor me" addiction.

"Caomhe got her kicks from belittling Josie, while smirking and muttering in front of her"
There was no belittling. YOU saying there was ISN'T enough proof to make it so. SHe ONCE had a laugh WITH Josie about the alcohol with JJ in the bath but that was clearly Keeva laughing with Josie to get her out of that stupid downer Josie was on OVER NOTHING again.

"She knew she was gonna be up, she knew she was gonna go, so she jumped before she was pushed in an effort to protect her own ego."
Keeva said "I can't stay in this house if Josie thinks I tried to steal her man, that's pathetic". She wasn't on the way out .... Josie stabbed and stabbed every chance she got with ANYONE that came near. After that it was impossible for her to stay when all were blanking her after hearing Josie's "porkies".

This!