[The Truth Is Out There!]

Originally Posted by housemate

D'you know what Wombat, I admire your tenacity. You are clinging on to your belief in Dave, good for you .. you twist and turn, contradict and condemn in order to defend someone who is losing credibility by the day, yet still you have not even begun to feel foolish.
Go you!! Well done.

Wow -is this "Joe' off the BB Comments page??? To add to the list of people defending but not answering.
Supporting but 'hating'
Saying 'honest' but lying and hiding....
etc!

[flamingGalah!]

Dave DID say he charges £30 to "heal" someone... I heard it come out of his VILE MOUTH on Live Feed... Lots of others heard it too... Please take your head out of the sand Wombal... Even if we showed you proof of that you would still think the sun shines out of his glory hole anyway...

[stoney]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Dave has already explained that sponsors of the church pay for tickets, board etc - called expenses!

I'm not changing any goal posts - I have yet to see proof of Dave saying anywhere that he charges to 'cure' people of cancer or anything else!

Yes there is a small fee for people to go to these 'sloshfests' - just as people generally pay to attend events (they are a small church and no doubt can't afford to fund all such events) but that is not the same thing as actually charging people to 'cure' them!

wombai, your wasting your time mate.
Some people have made up their minds and are willing to say anything to try to get a quick hate thread on Dave going to drum up support for their favourite inmate

as usual if you calmly point out the errors in their "argument" you'll simply be accused of being part of his cult/church/ con team

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by housemate

I think if you check ... but you can't because you haven't had LF ... you'll find that YOU are wrong .. again .. oh dear!

If you can provide a link for that - and I can see that for myself - then fair dues! Until then ...

[The Truth Is Out There!]

Originally Posted by stoney

wombai, your wasting your time mate.
Some people have made up their minds and are willing to say anything to try to get a quick hate thread on Dave going to drum up support for their favourite inmate

as usual if you calmly point out the errors in their "argument" you'll simply be accused of being part of his cult/church/ con team

Stoney proving the point - HATE! Their main buzz word!

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Dave DID say he charges £30 to "heal" someone... I heard it come out of his VILE MOUTH on Live Feed... Lots of others heard it too... Please take your head out of the sand Wombal... Even if we showed you proof of that you would still think the sun shines out of his glory hole anyway...

Show me the proof - and we will see!

[stoney]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Dave DID say he charges £30 to "heal" someone... I heard it come out of his VILE MOUTH on Live Feed... Lots of others heard it too... Please take your head out of the sand Wombal... Even if we showed you proof of that you would still think the sun shines out of his glory hole anyway...

yes a few Dave haters have claimed this but never managed to find any proof apart from saying other dave haters heard it too

[The Truth Is Out There!]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Show me the proof - and we will see!

Suggest you start w atching the programme and LISTENING!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

Chuff - let's not get carried away here! I am most definitely not one of his team - I am not and never have been religious! But I don't like these type of witchhunts - and I am not going to accuse people of something without proper, 100% proof. I have not had that - and I don't believe it is to be had!

I don't believe people can be vessels for God to heal people - but a lot of religious people do - and I think Dave is genuinely one of them, however odd I find that!

Having said that - the mind is a very powerful thing - and if people believe something strongly enough, sometimes it can make it happen - called the placebo effect!

You dont like witchhunts ,but support conmen robbing cancer victims ? not only support them ,but you DEFEND them too ,Shame on you Wombaii ,you are now on my ignore list and will stay there ,I have a level of acceptance ,you have now dropped WELL below that line

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by The Truth Is Out There!

Suggest you start w atching the programme and LISTENING!

To busy following Daves cult around the country with the begging bowl

[The Truth Is Out There!]

Originally Posted by stoney

yes a few Dave haters have claimed this but never managed to find any proof apart from saying other dave haters heard it too

AND again............

[watchinittoomuch]

The £30 was for attending a Sloshfest.

Yes, I have heard Dave say he saw a tumour recede through the power of prayer...I have NOT heard him say he charges people to pray for them.

I DID hear his say to Steve 'Maybe you'll let me get my hands on those nubs' or words to that affect, suggesting that he thought he and God could somehow regrow them. No I dont believe for one minute that's possible.

Dave's take on religion appears to be very evangelical, and not something that suits many people....it doesnt make it wrong or sick though, hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people around the world believe that failth can help cure their ills, make their lives better, redress the balance for any of their sins.

I personally dont like the fact that Dave thought Steve needed his legs regrowing...he's managed for twenty years without them, it kinda smacks of a suggestion that Steve should somehow be unhappy or dissatisfied, or that maybe Dave has some problem with his disability...in short, it came across as patronising..

BUT...a witch hunt this definitely does seem to be..

I also dont see how there could possibly be a press embargo on this? All the national news papers are way bigger than the programme? What purpose would it serve? To keep some bod from Wales who no one has ever heard of until now in the house? Is he THAT influential? The production team were all aware of his videos etc before he went in, THEY approached HIM....if anything the press reporting him would only pull in more viewers if anything?

[fingers]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

You dont like witchhunts ,but support conmen robbing cancer victims ? not only support them ,but you DEFEND them too ,Shame on you Wombaii ,you are now on my ignore list and will stay there ,I have a level of acceptance ,you have now dropped WELL below that line

I put WOMBLE on Ignore WEEKS ago.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by fingers

I put WOMBLE on Ignore WEEKS ago.

How low can a person sink ?

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by stoney

wombai, your wasting your time mate.
Some people have made up their minds and are willing to say anything to try to get a quick hate thread on Dave going to drum up support for their favourite inmate

as usual if you calmly point out the errors in their "argument" you'll simply be accused of being part of his cult/church/ con team

And some like you will defend his disgusting behaviour no matter what he does!!

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

If you can provide a link for that - and I can see that for myself - then fair dues! Until then ...

For the 93rd time it was on Live Feed when he said it & never made the highlights... Plently of us heard him say it, but hey "out of sight out of mind" & "ignorance is bliss" spring to mind with you...

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by stoney

yes a few Dave haters have claimed this but never managed to find any proof apart from saying other dave haters heard it too

He DID say it, couldn't care less if you believe it or not to be honest, no doubt you would still support him anyway...

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by housemate

D'you know what Wombat, I admire your tenacity. You are clinging on to your belief in Dave, good for you .. you twist and turn, contradict and condemn in order to defend someone who is losing credibility by the day, yet still you have not even begun to feel foolish.
Go you!! Well done.

I know I don't look half as foolish as those who hatred for the man causes them to make the most haneous and unsubstantiated allegations - all in an attempt to prevent him from winning a tv show!

[housemate]

Originally Posted by stoney

wombai, your wasting your time mate.
Some people have made up their minds and are willing to say anything to try to get a quick hate thread on Dave going to drum up support for their favourite inmate

as usual if you calmly point out the errors in their "argument" you'll simply be accused of being part of his cult/church/ con team

Oh, Wrong again ... I support Sam who (bless his heart) hasn't got a hope.
It may come as a shock but there are still some people about who will write posts because they feel that a HM is being totally out of order !!

[Chuckyegg]

i reckon he's neither religious or mad......he will just do anything for a bit of attention

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

He DID say it, couldn't care less if you believe it or not to be honest, no doubt you would still support him anyway...

If I saw the proof with my own eyes that he was charging people to 'cure' them - it is extremely unlikely I would continue to support him! If there is any such evidence - surely someone could have produced it by now!

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by WOMBAI

I know I don't look half as foolish as those who hatred for the man causes them to make the most haneous and unsubstantiated allegations - all in an attempt to prevent him from winning a tv show!

Believe me you look far worse...

No allegations, just the TRUTH which he said HIMSELF...

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by flamingGalah!

Believe me you look far worse...

No allegations, just the TRUTH which he said HIMSELF...

No I don't, and many agree with me - if it is the truth, produce the evidence - shouldn't be so hard, should it!

[fingers]

Originally Posted by Chuckyegg

i reckon he's neither religious or mad......he will just do anything for a bit of attention

Intelligent but utterly without scruples and blatantly devious, Just the kind that some like to champion - they can do no wrong! lol

[housemate]

[QUOTE=WOMBAI;3668284]I know I don't look half as foolish as those who hatred for the man causes them to make the most haneous and unsubstantiated allegations - all in an attempt to prevent him from winning a tv show! [/QUOTE

In response to this enlightening piece of wisdom Wombat, I have one word for you :

Josie!! Lol!!!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by fingers

Intelligent but utterly without scruples and blatantly devious, Just the kind that some like to champion - they can do no wrong! lol

A 100% fraudster and thief ,taking money under false pretences