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Originally Posted by calyman

Well any practioner of superstition can be accussed of being called a con man.

Right. I'd only call Dave a con man if we're going to be so broad that all clergy are con men. Which they are, knowingly or unknowingly.

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Originally Posted by stonedape

Right. I'd only call Dave a con man if we're going to be so broad that all clergy are con men. Which they are, knowingly or unknowingly.

"Clergy" wtf has Dave got to do with the "Clergy"he is NOT clergy ,you or i could set up a cult ,he has nothing whatsoever to do with the COE ,or any other legit religion ,its a business,nothing more,nothing less

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

"Clergy" wtf has Dave got to do with the "Clergy"he is NOT clergy ,you or i could set up a cult ,he has nothing whatsoever to do with the COE ,or any other legit religion ,its a business,nothing more,nothing less

Uhh....someone didn't get my point. I wasn't making any statement on whether Dave is a part of the clergy, I was saying if you're going to call Dave a con man, you have to call the clergy con men too. And all people who sell myths for a living, and that includes Christianity in all its versions.

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Originally Posted by stonedape

Uhh....someone didn't get my point. I wasn't making any statement on whether Dave is a part of the clergy, I was saying if you're going to call Dave a con man, you have to call the clergy con men too. And all people who sell myths for a living, and that includes Christianity in all its versions.

You are STILL linking him to the clergy

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

You are STILL linking him to the clergy

Which is not remotely the same as calling them identical things. And as I've already said, your point doesn't even have any relevance to the conversation. My point would stand regardless of whether or not anyone would call Dave clergy. As far as I'm concerned, that's a petty political matter. If you're going to consider Dave a conman, you must consider ALL myth salesmen as con men, and that includes the clergy.

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

"Clergy" wtf has Dave got to do with the "Clergy"he is NOT clergy ,you or i could set up a cult ,he has nothing whatsoever to do with the COE ,or any other legit religion ,its a business,nothing more,nothing less

Absolutly Agree .. he is a self appointed minister with no grounding, training or learning in any Faith or Body. We are all able (legally) to do this ... morally speaking, well thats another question.