[Abhorsen]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

no.


and how come people dont mention the discrimination of peoples weight? josie and dave got it non stop this year but nobody mentioned it? why?

Good point. Because apparently it's OK to discriminate against people if they choose to be that way, hang on a minute, being gay is a choice isn't it?

[Shardlake]

Originally Posted by Abhorsen

Good point. Because apparently it's OK to discriminate against people if they choose to be that way, hang on a minute, being gay is a choice isn't it?

No. It isnt.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Abhorsen

Good point. Because apparently it's OK to discriminate against people if they choose to be that way, hang on a minute, being gay is a choice isn't it?

Being gay isn't a choice. :S

Its how you were born.

People aren't born fat. And can change it by diet and exercise

I guess you could argue that a gay person could be with someone of the opposite sex if pushed to do so, but why should they?

[Abhorsen]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Being gay isn't a choice. :S

Its how you were born.

People aren't born fat. And can change it by diet and exercise

There is no evidence for people being born gay. That is a myth, like the one about how we only use 10% of our brains, it's all nonsense with no basis in science.

And there is evidence that people with different genes react differently to food and exercise.

The best you can say is that genes AND the environment work together to produce the outcomes for weight and sexual preference.

I don't think you're right to say that it is OK to discriminate on weight but not on being gay, we should NOT discriminate on either, people's appearance whether they choose it or not, what next? Is it OK to discriminate on tattoos and colour of hair (dyed or not)?

[Bigbrofan25]

Originally Posted by Abhorsen

There is no evidence for people being born gay. That is a myth, like the one about how we only use 10% of our brains, it's all nonsense with no basis in science.

And there is evidence that people with different genes react differently to food and exercise.

The best you can say is that genes AND the environment work together to produce the outcomes for weight and sexual preference.

I don't think you're right to say that it is OK to discriminate on weight but not on being gay, we should NOT discriminate on either, people's appearance whether they choose it or not, what next? Is it OK to discriminate on tattoos and colour of hair (dyed or not)?

Genes do play a roll in sexuality its not by choice at all thats just a myth

Many people who are gay wished they were straight some of them hate the way they are do you honestly think if they could choose to be straight they wouldn`t jump at the chance

Did you choose to be hetrosexual?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Abhorsen

I don't think you're right to say that it is OK to discriminate on weight but not on being gay, we should NOT discriminate on either, people's appearance whether they choose it or not, what next? Is it OK to discriminate on tattoos and colour of hair (dyed or not)?

I dont agree with any form of discrimination. But comparing someone being slagged off for being fat and someone being slagged off because they are gay, is ridiculous IMO.

And its not right, but yes, people do discriminate on both of what you said too.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I dont agree with any form of discrimination. But comparing someone being slagged off for being fat and someone being slagged off because they are gay, is ridiculous IMO.

And its not right, but yes, people do discriminate on both of what you said too.

you said on one of your past posts that you thought all discrimination are as bad as each other?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by jedward fever

you said on one of your past posts that you thought all discrimination are as bad as each other?

I dont class calling someone fat as discrimination though as such.

Though it isn't nice.

As it IS something that people can change.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I dont class calling someone fat as discrimination though as such.

Though it isn't nice.

As it IS something that people can change.

well michael jackson proved he could change his colour so does that mean then that racism is not discrimination?

[Shardlake]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

As it IS something that people can change.

I dont want to be pedantic and dont want to get into a long drawn out argument over it, but that is not strictly true. Some medications will make you put on weight and if that person has mobility problems or in a wheelchair for example there is not a lot they are able to do short of starving themselves.

Making fun of people because of their weight IS discrimination and making fun of someone who is overweight shows ignorance as you dont know if that person is on medication or has some medical condition causing their excess weight or whether they are just a lazy so and so, which in itself s still not a reason to accept making fun of someones weight.

If someone is lazy, doesnt want to exercise, comfort eats and is not on any medication causing it, there will almost always be an emotional issue be it depression or low self esteem. Making fun of such a person will only make them feel worse. So no I dont think it should be any more acceptable than commenting on colour or sexuality.

People who say these kind of things on internet forums should ask themselves before posting whether they would say what they are typing to a persons face. If the answer is no then dont type it.

[Abhorsen]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I dont class calling someone fat as discrimination though as such.

Though it isn't nice.

As it IS something that people can change.

If you treat someone differently because of a physical attribute then you are discriminating, whether you personally choose to call it that, it still is by definition.

It is a cheap excuse to say weight is OK to bully people with because in your opinion they can change. And you cannot say being gay is genetic because it simply is not - there is no evidence for that claim. For example a gay mother or father is no more likely to father or mother a gay child!!! Being gay is more to do with gender psychology than genetics!!!

I think it is wrong to discriminate on the grounds of APPEARANCE, whatever that is.

Being gay and being black cannot be considered in the same category, one IS a life choice the other you are born with - being black is what you are born with.

Whether we should discriminate on life choices is a separate matter to physical attributes or genetic conditions.

For example, if someone is a drunk driver and loses their legs in an accident, on visual appearances alone you would sympathise with them, but their disability would have been due to a life choice? Should we also discriminate against parents who know they may pass on a genetic disease? Or their offspring, as that is a life choice?

[Bigbrofan25]

Originally Posted by Abhorsen

Good point. Because apparently it's OK to discriminate against people if they choose to be that way, hang on a minute, being gay is a choice isn't it?

No being Gay isn`t a choice