[Jamietwo]

Originally Posted by Zippy

Says who?

If somebody becomes the person theyve always felt they should be they have every right to get out there and strut!

Doesn't mean they deserve abuse. Nobody should stay at home just to avoid other peoples ignorance and insults.

i give up zippy, i believe that some of these types would still make excuses for coolio if he had actually battered nadia with his fists ffs

[Chilltown]

Nadia acted like an immature, over-the-top Diva. That's just how she is now. Coolio was trying to rile up the housemates in an attempt to gameplay, she didn't take to it and threw a fit. You're on a gameshow, that's what you should expect regardless.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Jamietwo

i give up zippy, i believe that some of these types would still make excuses for coolio if he had actually battered nadia with his fists ffs

Do you live in the real world?

Just because a transgender individual says she was subject to some sort of discrimination does not make it so, just because you either A. identify with her, B. are a fan of hers, C. dislike theperson she is making the accusation against because he is not of the same race as yourself.

Coolio being on TV at the eviction show, in the housemates area sort of sends out a deliberate statement. Think about it. If you can manage to get your "every non straight individual is a victim" mentality around it.

[Jamietwo]

Originally Posted by Shasown

Do you live in the real world?

Just because a transgender individual says she was subject to some sort of discrimination does not make it so, just because you either A. identify with her, B. are a fan of hers, C. dislike theperson she is making the accusation against because he is not of the same race as yourself.

Coolio being on TV at the eviction show, in the housemates area sort of sends out a deliberate statement. Think about it. If you can manage to get your "every non straight individual is a victim" mentality around it.

No i don't see every non str8 person as a victim at all. and yes of course coolio would enjoy showing his face in the VIP area for A list celebrities (not) I completely understand the game he plays. and nadia wasn't the only one to feel relief when he was booted.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Jamietwo

No i don't see every non str8 person as a victim at all. and yes of course coolio would enjoy showing his face in the VIP area for A list celebrities (not) I completely understand the game he plays. and nadia wasn't the only one to feel relief when he was booted.

You have deliberately missed a couple of points throughout this thread

1. He wasnt booted

2. To get into the VIP area he would have had to be invited,.......

OMG that means that either Endemol or Channel 4 (the channel that broke new ground by giving platforms for minorities) actually agreed with his 'transphobic' actions.

Or then again maybe his discrimination wasnt anywhere near as bad as that has been imagined and suggested by Nadia and Marco, ever think that? Nope thought not!

[Jamietwo]

I'm not ashamed to admit the man disgusts me. After his one hit pop record of twenty years ago he went on to be a crack pusher for a living, and was caught again last year smuggling crack at LA airport. He has an out dated attitude and was a creep around women on both his stays in the house. It's not only nadias word either, but just about every other HM's word too...plus you can watch 28th august episode on 4 od where BB says to him in the diary room that he has broken the rules on several occasions regarding abusive behavior, He was unapologetic and was shown the door. So yes i made this thread because i was upset to see his ugly face at the final. It does send out a message, definitely, the wrong message.

[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Jamietwo

I'm not ashamed to admit the man disgusts me. After his one hit pop record of twenty years ago he went on to be a crack pusher for a living, and was caught again last year smuggling crack at LA airport. He has an out dated attitude and was a creep around women on both his stays in the house. It's not only nadias word either, but just about every other HM's word too...plus you can watch 28th august episode on 4 od where BB says to him in the diary room that he has broken the rules on several occasions regarding abusive behavior, He was unapologetic and was shown the door. So yes i made this thread because i was upset to see his ugly face at the final. It does send out a message, definitely, the wrong message.

You would make a pretty crap prosecutor.

Crack pusher? Any proof of that?

He caused trouble and upset people in the house, that doesnt mean it was all or even any of it was because of any discrimination towards Nadia. So yes other people didnt dislike him.

You will notice though no one specifically said his behaviour to Nadia had been transphobic or disgusting etc.

Dont know if they taught you this at school, but generally you take all the little bits and add them up, not decide what you want the answer to be then force the little bits to make it so.

I notice between the time Coolio walked and the time Nadia was evicted to a horrendous outpouring of boos, one of the worst receptions I have heard in a lot of years for a "favourite", you never mentioned what an evil transphobic person he was.

Its only after nadia comes out and uses "bad editing" and Coolios behaviour to explain her fall from grace you suddenly jump aboard her bandwagon!

Naturally because Nadia never ever exaggerates or overreacts you believe everything she says. In fact now you are so convinced you and nadia are correct you probably do believe it as if you witnessed it with your own eyes.

[Jamietwo]

Originally Posted by Shasown

You would make a pretty crap prosecutor.

Crack pusher? Any proof of that?

He caused trouble and upset people in the house, that doesnt mean it was all or even any of it was because of any discrimination towards Nadia. So yes other people didnt dislike him.

You will notice though no one specifically said his behaviour to Nadia had been transphobic or disgusting etc.

Dont know if they taught you this at school, but generally you take all the little bits and add them up, not decide what you want the answer to be then force the little bits to make it so.

I notice between the time Coolio walked and the time Nadia was evicted to a horrendous outpouring of boos, one of the worst receptions I have heard in a lot of years for a "favourite", you never mentioned what an evil transphobic person he was.

Its only after nadia comes out and uses "bad editing" and Coolios behaviour to explain her fall from grace you suddenly jump aboard her bandwagon!

Naturally because Nadia never ever exaggerates or overreacts you believe everything she says. In fact now you are so convinced you and nadia are correct you probably do believe it as if you witnessed it with your own eyes.

ok i don't have proof he pushed crack, it says it on his wiki bio, yeah i know not a reliable source..

lots of people said he behavior towards nadia was disgusting, niki and preston were both specific about this as was brian, also makosi...even chantelle said the stuff he said was bad.

no need to patronise me about school etc I do look for the truth and try hard not to prejudge people, initially i found coolio to be very funny, his impression of nadia ranting was very funny and at times he seemed ok, but he couldn't leave it, which is i believe a result of a narcissistic personality.

you appear to have studied my posts , actually i don't see there being a bandwagon as it seems that 98% of people are on coolios side and hate nadia. I really don't like the word trans-phobic it just sounds too pc , but abuse and bullying I do identify with.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Jamietwo

ok well that's your position clear, maybe blacks and gays and jews should stay at home as well.

Brian won and Victor came 4th - don't see much evidence of discrimination there! Nadia said quite clearly that she had given BB a choice - it was her or Coolio, and she was determined to get rid of him one way or another. Can't blame BB if they wanted to avoid another faux discrimination row (as with Jade).

If BB show ALL of the footage, no doubt we'll get a more balanced picture, including all the incidents where Nadia has upset fellow HMs with her vile, arrogant, spiteful behaviour. And if she takes legal action, lets hope she does it at her OWN expense and not the taxpayers, since it is nonsense litigation based on sour grapes and wounded ego.

[Shardlake]

Originally Posted by Jamietwo

yeah but coolio wasn't talking about nadia he was targeting her and harrasing her based solely on her gender....

And you know this how?

[Jamietwo]

Originally Posted by Shardlake

And you know this how?

from makosis twitter from what was shown on the highlights (still on 4 od) from comments made since by other house-mates while still in BB and from marco sabba and from what nadia says. but you know what, I do have a contact on the production team, I may be able to find out more tomorrow. or if not, quite soon. i expect niki to be quite out spoken about it, maybe one or two others..It hardly matters now anyway. i just started this thread as i was suprised to see coolio there, and then got into a discussion about it.

[lostalex]

Well last night i heard most housemates saying Coolio was a fun guy, not a bad word spoken about him. I also heard housemates say Nadia was volatile and not much fun to live with.

All the people saying Coolio was harassing the women.. who was he harassing?? He was flirting with Chantelle mostly, and maybe Makosi a bit too. Both Chantelle and Makosi say they like Coolio, so how is his flirting a bad thing if the women he flirted with enjoyed it? You try to make it sound as if he was making the women uncomfortable, when in fact the oppossite seems to be true, it seems they enjoyed it and found it playful and fun.

Even Nick specifically said, he liked Coolio, and said Nadia was volatile and everyone was walking on egg-shells around her because she was so unstable.

I don't remember hearing any housemates missing Nadia very much once she was gone. In fact i havn't heard any housemates speak favourably about Nadia ATALL.

I'm glad Coolio showed up last night. I think he's hilarious and a true BB legend.

[flamingGalah!]

Coolio is a vile person. Hopefully that disgusting, perverted, biggotted, washed up old druggie will be on a plane back to the US today...

[Vicky.]

Enough. Next petty comment gets an infraction.

I am not sitting deleting this all day just for you two to keep carrying it on.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Enough. Next petty comment gets an infraction.

I am not sitting deleting this all day just for you two to keep carrying it on.

i've already gotten an infraction for just saying Nadia is on hormone pills, yet these yahoo's are allowed to call Coolio a drug addict? Make all the threats you like, i don't expect fair moderation on this site.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i've already gotten an infraction for just saying Nadia is on hormone pills, yet these yahoo's are allowed to call Coolio a drug addict? Make all the threats you like, i don't expect fair moderation on this site.

I was talking about the bickering between you and inone. The stuff that is totally offtopic and just childish.

And you didnt just say nadia was on hormone pills. Just looked at that infraction again, and it was deserved.