[mrscolumbo]

Consider the police have made a complete and utter a**e of the investigation - the longer it goes on the colder the case becomes - shouldn't think for one moment the owner of the light coloured 4x4 seen in the area on the night of the 17th is likely to come forward - could well have been an innocent courting couple looking for a quiet place to park up - after the police handling of Mr Jefferies as a suspect and their desperation to nail somebody I suspect they have lost the confidence of the innocent public to come forward with any information especially if it puts them anywhere near the seen of the crime!

[mrscolumbo]

Consider this Pyramid if a certain persons fingerprints are on the pizza box who at the time of her purchasing the item claims was somewhere else then they have the culprit - that is why IMHO they are putting so much store on finding the packaging.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by mrscolumbo

Consider this Pyramid if a certain persons fingerprints are on the pizza box who at the time of her purchasing the item claims was somewhere else then they have the culprit - that is why IMHO they are putting so much store on finding the packaging.

Really !!! LOL


who could have handled the pizza box ... oh I wonder..... *thinks for a split second*... lots of people!

At point of manufacture.

At point of being packed to store

At point of being unpacked at store.

At point of being placed in freezer at store

At point of another customer picking it up, then placing it back in freezer

At point of checkout assistant charging it on till

At point of Joanna touching it

At point of being emptied into bin lorry, wind could have caught it as bin emptied, bin man (not wearing gloves) could have picked it up and thrown in bin lorry....
yeah.....

Oh...and of course, the possibility of it being the killer.

You're not living up to your name much here really !!!

[mrscolumbo]

Fair comment Pyramid but if there are fingerprints that shouldn't be on the packaging and they belong to a 'suspect' bit hard for that 'suspect' to protest his innocence anymore - case closed.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by mrscolumbo

Fair comment Pyramid but if there are fingerprints that shouldn't be on the packaging and they belong to a 'suspect' bit hard for that 'suspect' to protest his innocence anymore - case closed.

This of course could be a possibility - but I guess it's the only thing that the police have on their only suspect - which at this point in time, still remains that they have nothing on him.

In response to your assumption earlier

if a certain persons fingerprints are on the pizza box who at the time of her purchasing the item claims was somewhere else then they have the culprit

- who is to say that Joanna's bin wasn't overflowing, CJ had been putting something in his own bin, noticed the overflowing bin of Joanna's, of which the pizza box was one of the things hanging over the edge, he lifts lid and pushes the box down to allow lid to close.

CJ's prints on a pizza box could have very plausible reason for it - and not beyond all comprehension either.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

This of course could be a possibility - but I guess it's the only thing that the police have on their only suspect - which at this point in time, still remains that they have nothing on him.

In response to your assumption earlier - who is to say that Joanna's bin wasn't overflowing, CJ had been putting something in his own bin, noticed the overflowing bin of Joanna's, of which the pizza box was one of the things hanging over the edge, he lifts lid and pushes the box down to allow lid to close.

CJ's prints on a pizza box could have very plausible reason for it - and not beyond all comprehension either.

I really think the police are only focusing on the pizza box and the mysterious 4x4 in the absence of anything else to go on. It's amazing really that there is such a complete and utter lack of any hard evidence.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by angus58

I really think the police are only focusing on the pizza box and the mysterious 4x4 in the absence of anything else to go on. It's amazing really that there is such a complete and utter lack of any hard evidence.

The pizza box... unless there is something on Joanna's body that would indicate the need to find the box which the police have chosen not to make public for whatever reason - I'm mystified for all the reasons I've metioned earlier.

As for the 4x4. Given that's only pretty recent development (on the back of the 'vehicle being driven oddly and doing a 'u turn' a few days ago: I have to agree.

There seems to be great focus on DNA from the front door also: but not much is being mentioned - was it kicked in? Are there footprints on the door?

Was it a break-in/burglar who 'chibbed' there way in hence so much focus on the door? Did Joanna disturb them - is there blood on the box, does Jo have anything under fingernails to link to a killer? So many questions!!

I am beginning to think the police really have nothing tangible at all and are having to grasp at straws.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by mrscolumbo

Consider the police have made a complete and utter a**e of the investigation - the longer it goes on the colder the case becomes - shouldn't think for one moment the owner of the light coloured 4x4 seen in the area on the night of the 17th is likely to come forward - could well have been an innocent courting couple looking for a quiet place to park up - after the police handling of Mr Jefferies as a suspect and their desperation to nail somebody I suspect they have lost the confidence of the innocent public to come forward with any information especially if it puts them anywhere near the seen of the crime!

Given that I said something very similar yesterday : I totally agree on that point!

After the way CJ has been castigated up till this point - anyone going near the police even with the smallest piece of info after the way this has been handled so far, would quite seriously, have to have to be insane.

In absolute fairness: it's not necessarily been the police handling of the matter - they are quite at liberty to take a person into custody for questioning as long as they have reasonable cause to do so. That said, I'm not convinced that they did have as much 'reasonable cause' as they perhaps thought they did -but I'll mitigate that by stating that they must have had their 'reasons' - none which appear to have been enough, thus having to release the man without charge.

It was the media who created the problem as far as CJ is concerned, and in the interim, have most likely, damaged any chance of the public being as willing to be compliant in offering any possible assistance.

In all honestly: at this stage of the game, if it were me and I suddenly thought, "Oh hang on.... I remember when I drove past there in my nice 4 x 4, I saw this".......