[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

From somewhere else. I agree with this post 100%. This is how a good parent would think IMO

That makes sense yes, When your Son or Daughter is not in a house and the Mother is watching the House, and maybe feels they have seen things the kid hasn't.

You know as well as the rest how the editing has gone this year, hard not to see Faye's Mum, not being influenced by it.

Under them circumstances should she get involved? maybe a fairer question is could she stop yourself.

[Benjamin]

Honestly, I believe she is worried about her daughter. Faye is still young and a little naive to the world and of course her mum would be worried about her just like I'm sure many of your mums would be about you in a similar situation.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

yep, that's what I am saying: we don't know what was said, in what context - no where close to it. And yep, that may (or may not) apply to every other type of edit - bad or good, regardless of housemate. (the prime example being not one hm ever mentioning Jay putting his crap in the freezer - until Aaron referred to it subtly in the diary room). such an incident happens and there is not one utter word, not a sentence by a full house of hms regarding the incident, nor in having the freezer removed, or discussing what happened to the contents, if BB refilled it with the same foodstuff that had to be destroyed.....not a single word was uttered. That's the converse side: ie a good edit.

I learned of Jay's frozen turd antic from Heaven when she was evicted! ...not from Aaron?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Lex

I learned of Jay's frozen turd antic from Heaven when she was evicted! ...not from Aaron?

I did too, but the first time we heard any housemate (not ex-housemate) discussing it on the BB show....was Aaron.

[Ammi]

..The thing is people can't say that Jem is an interferring cow and then say Ma Palmer is just a concerned mother because they're both coming from the same page..they're either both acting out of concern..or they're both trying to control Faye at the expense of, not only her experience in the house, but her happiness also.
I have imagined myself in this situation and no matter which way round I put it, I would never.......never.......do anything to cause Faye any upset while she was in the house...Ma Palmer had something to get off her chest and she didn't care who got hurt in the process.......

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

we do know however that BB has a habit of snipping convos, adding parts of disjointed convos together: to make up a complete falsehood.

And yet you are very quick to condemn other HMs based on the same edits.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by kazanne

It might look like guilt tripping to you,to me it looked like he was telling the truth,she did say she didn't like Louise and then backtracked,faye does this a lot

I believe you will find that Aaron has done the exact same thing with Jay. But because everybody loves Aaron, nobody takes any notice

[exoticrosebud]

i think she should just butt out and let Faye decide for herself. I also think that Fayes tears are a little false! If she was going to enter into some kind of 'relationship' in there, whe should have gone with the flow, had a laugh and a good time and took it for what it was...and if it worked out later great......not keep bloody asking him all the time how he feels about her, does he like her family etc etc..stomping off when he didnt answer her after she was butting into the conversation and making him feel awful..(he did go after her)......thats the actions of a silly little girl playing at 'wanna be grown up in a relationship' and if she is a blood wrestler, i will eat my hat !!! get some balls girl and tell your sister that she has ruined what might have been and tell your mother to back off !!

[Cromwell1900]

Her criticism of him on Bots last night saying he'd told Rebeckah he likes her, then turning around and saying he hates her, is the sign of a deceptive man.

With that in mind it's not hard to see how her Mum & Gem could not feel they have an insight into Aaron that Faye does not.

Gem told Faye she thought he was playing a game, and thought it Possible he was messing with her(anything else?) in the convo in the bathroom that Jay & Aaron watched, this was his reason for not accepting her Olive Branch when she offered it, to me that is worthy of criticism, as if i was Aaron i would understand that Gem had heard me say im playing a game, relating it to Faye was her sisterly duty.

As for Mrs Palmers actions, how dare anyone tell a Mother how to treat her Daughter quite frankly.

[crocs]

Originally Posted by Cromwell1900

Given the edits this year it's possible there may have been but you still have to explain Harry's line "Attention to detail is unreal" this referred to the way BB has been editing the show makes no sense.

I always understood this as banter between Harry and Aaron and as their sarcastic humour. It's funny how we understand the same thing in so many ways. I'm a very sarcastic person and as I've seen that side in Harry and Aaron, I assumed it being sarcasm. Many times my friends have trouble understanding when I'm joking and when I'm being serious as they don't see the difference. I always assumed that this was the case in their discussion (I mean from the audience's point of view). First they were being sarcastic and switched to being serious.

[Cromwell1900]

Originally Posted by crocs

I always understood this as banter between Harry and Aaron and as their sarcastic humour. It's funny how we understand the same thing in so many ways. I'm a very sarcastic person and as I've seen that side in Harry and Aaron, I assumed it being sarcasm. Many times my friends have trouble understanding when I'm joking and when I'm being serious as they don't see the difference. I always assumed that this was the case in their discussion (I mean from the audience's point of view). First they were being sarcastic and switched to being serious.

What we have here is

1. Edited Version of the conversation in the Hl Show
2. Less Edited version Online. (although with no Fb you don't get to see it)

Not so bad if the editing team are responsible in there editing of the Hl version(Fat Chance). I was told last night by a Tibb member that the Online version showed Aaron denying the insinuation's i felt he was making with the

"The whole relationship thing, the Attention to detail is unreal"

Line from the Hl version. Without hearing that denial i was left an impression that Aaron was in agreement. An impression that wasn't shifted till last night. After being told he had denied it.

Both Gem & her Mum, would of likely seen the same edited version as me, and likely drawn a similar conclusion from it. Certainly they are as Anti Aaron as i was. We have 2 versions of the same show going on & BB don't seem to give a damn about it, & If anyone needed a better excuse to throw into the faces of BB execs, when next year & LF are discussed then this twin Version approach is one.

It's been said many times BB are the ones to blame, and for me, Gem & her Mum may be victims of BB, at least in regards this conversation and examples similar.