[Roy Mars III]

Kobe has taken Rose under his wing.

Kobe Bryant pulled Derrick Rose aside at last July's exhibition in the Philippines and offered him some pointers. Improve your post game. Find the areas on the floor where double-teaming is more difficult. Seek championships. Rose took Bryant's advice to heart and to the court

"I worked on my post-up game, my isolation game, working at the elbows, trying to get fouled and get into the lane and put pressure on the defense," Rose said. "I'm trying to do better than last year. That was a good season, but it's last year. Only a championship will do."

Read more: Kobe Encouraged Rose To Work On Post Game - RealGM Wiretap

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/20...his-post-game/

Rose will be the best in the league very soon

[Legend killer]

PMSL what a weak response completly avoid the stats i posted in Kobe's "Prime" years that YOU said he destroyed Wade in EVERY catergory PMSL FACEPALM

And of course he got voted in he is the second coming of Jordan after all. Even last year he still managed to get into all defence first team when he was being abused ALL year. That's just how it goes when you media goldenboy just ask mr MVP D Rose

Whether you like it or not in both all time and Kobe's prime his stats don't match with D Wade and i can tell that really hurts you Kobe fans

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Roy Claus III

Kobe has taken Rose under his wing.



Rose will be the best in the league very soon

Yes, Kobe is a mentor to Rose, Dwight, Melo and Iggy.

[Legend killer]

Let's get all the stats in one post just to highlight the gulf between the two

SOBIGKobe in his Prime from 03 to 08 was better than Wade at everything

Very intresting you say this cause again the stats prove this WRONG

Skiping Flash's first season for ovious reasons lets look at the seasons in this peroid

04-05

Wade had better ASSIST ,BLOCK ,STEALS AND FIELD GOAL NUMBERS/PERCENTAGE

05-06

Wade had better ASSIST , REBOUNDS , STEALS ,BLOCKS AND FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE/NUMBERS

06-07

Wade had better ASSIST , STEALS , BLOCKS AND FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE/NUMBERS

07-08

Wade had better ASSIST ,STEALS,BLOCKS AND FIELD GOAL PERCENTAGE/NUMBERS

In All the above season's Kobe played more Mins and More games than Wade

Wade Career Statline VS Kobe Career Statline
PPG - 25.5 PPG - 25.3
Blocks Per Game - 1.1 Blocks Per Games - 0.5
Steals Per Game - 1.8 Steals Per Game - 1.4
Assists Per Game - 6.3 Assists Per Game - 4.7
Rebounds Per Game 5.2 Rebounds Per Game - 5.3
Field Goal Percentage 0.485 Field Goal Percentage - 0.445

So the only stat Kobe is SLIGHTLY better in is rebounds which given he is 2-3 inches taller is rubbish and the fact thats Wade NEVER completes a full season

These stats become even wider in PLAYOFF AVERAGES

PPG - 25.9 PPG - 25.4
Blocks Per Game - 1.1 Blocks Per Game - 0.7
Steals Per Game - 1.7 Steals Per Game - 1.4
Assists Per Game - 5.6 Assists Per Game - 4.8
Rebounds Per Game - 5.7 Rebounds Per Game - 5.1
Field Goal Percentage - 0.483 Field Goal Percentage - 0.448

LOL so he fails do beat Wade in ANY major catergory come Playoff time


PER rating scale sums up all a player's positive accomplishments, subtracts the negative accomplishments, and returns a per-minute rating of a player's performance."
So how does Kobe stack up against LeBron or Wade

LeBron tops Kobe (and everyone except for Michael Jordan) 26.77 to 23.54, and Wade isn't too far behind with 25.59

And he even had to carry USA to Olympics Gold

Wade Averaged 16 points a game compared to Kobe's 15
Wade had a field goal% of .671 to Kobe's .462
Wade's 3% was .471 to Kobe's quite dreadful .321
Wade's Free throw % was .634 to Kobe's .583
Wade's rebound average was 4.0 compared to Kobe's 2.8 even though he gives up 3 inches on Kobe
Wade had 18 steals for the tourney compared to Kobe's 9
They had virtually the same Assists per game average
And the only stats he trumped Wade in was block

[Legend killer]

Kobe's main advice to Rose was to shoot 25-30 shots a game and never pass the ball

[Roy Mars III]

Maybe Wade would actually be the best in the league if Kobe helped him out

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

PMSL what a weak response completly avoid the stats i posted in Kobe's "Prime" years that YOU said he destroyed Wade in EVERY catergory PMSL FACEPALM

And of course he got voted in he is the second coming of Jordan after all. Even last year he still managed to get into all defence first team when he was being abused ALL year. That's just how it goes when you media goldenboy just ask mr MVP D Rose

Whether you like it or not in both all time and Kobe's prime his stats don't match with D Wade and i can tell that really hurts you Kobe fans

You really think Wade having more assists and blocks hurt? I've already given you an explanation as to why he has more.

Fact is. Kobe has ALWAYS been considered to be a better player than Wade by every basketball expert on the planet. There is a simple explanation for that. Because he is... a better player.

Just watch these.

Sun's coach.

Youtube video

Wade's teammate.

Youtube video

President of the United States.

Youtube video

Dirk

Youtube video

Serveral NBA players were asked who is the best player. Guess who they said?

Youtube video

Amare on who the best player in the NBA is

Youtube video

Gregg Popvich

Youtube video

Video of several NBA players, Coaches, GMs saying Kobe is the best

Youtube video

Youtube video

Youtube video

But LegendKiller its just all some big conspiracy right?

[Legend killer]

Simple question why are Kobe's stats even in his "Prime" years not as good as Wade's if he is the better player

PLEASE DO TELL

[Legend killer]

PMSL and again the STATS are avoided

So let me get this right i have stats that back up my view while you have a bunch of videos from the same bums that more than likely thought Rose should have got MVP pmsl i know which i prefer

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Roy Claus III

Maybe Wade would actually be the best in the league if Kobe helped him out

Wade and Lebron both asked Kobe to help them to become better defenders during the 08 Olympics and Kobe gave them hours of lessons. There are even videos of them talking about it and videos of Kobe teaching them. They both were much better defenders in the 08-09 season because of Kobe's help.

[SoBig]

Aye LegendKiller read this.

And now Dwyane Wade is making a statement of his own: Kobe Bryant is the best basketball player in the game today.

“I believe that Kobe Bryant is still the best player in the game, his experience and his overall talent. It’s not taking away from LeBron, it’s not taking away from Carmelo, it’s not taking away from myself,” Wade told ESPN Radio Chicago. “Kobe has been in the game longer than the rest of us, he’s older than us, he’s smart with the game. He’s the better player.”

http://dimemag.com/2009/06/dwyane-wa...r-in-the-game/

Even your boy said it.

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

PMSL and again the STATS are avoided

So let me get this right i have stats that back up my view while you have a bunch of videos from the same bums that more than likely thought Rose should have got MVP pmsl i know which i prefer

So all the NBA players, Coaches, GMs, Former NBA Greats are wrong and you are right?

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

PMSL and again the STATS are avoided

So let me get this right i have stats that back up my view while you have a bunch of videos from the same bums that more than likely thought Rose should have got MVP pmsl i know which i prefer

Stats have a lot to do with the type of offensive system that your team runs.

Do you honestly believe Lebron would have put up those crazy stats he was putting up in Cleveland if he played in the triangle offense? If you say yes, then that shows that you don't know anything about basketball on a technical level.

[Legend killer]

Yes You Stop Avoiding The Stats

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

Yes You Stop Avoiding The Stats

Answer my question about Lebron playing in the triangle offense and what do you think about Wade saying that Kobe is better than him?

[Legend killer]

SOBIG what do you want from me???

First i bring out their overall statline to date and you start whinging about how Kobe's prime years own everything Wade has done

Than i compare Kobe's prime years to Wade and again the stats show Wade owns Kobe. Than you start moaning about Triangle offence LOL make your mind up son

[SoBig]

I mean why am I even debating with you? Even Wade said Kobe was better than him.

[Legend killer]

Wade unlike Kobe doesn't have his head up his own ass

Now you answer my stats

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

Wade unlike Kobe doesn't have his head up his own ass

Now you answer my stats

I already did. Stats have everything to do with a player's role on his team and the type of offensive system that they run.

Thats why I watch the players play. Not just look at the stats sheet.

Stats sheets says that KG was better than Duncan. Karl Malone is better than Tim Duncan. Vince Carter was better than Paul Pierce.

Is Wade a worse player now than he was in 09? No, his role changed on his team. Did Lebron get worse last year? No, his role changed.

Its just that simple really.

[Legend killer]

Flash was doing some mentoring of his own with Miami's greatest ever Robin

On LeBron James- "I said, 'Let me look like the mean one. You play the way you play.' We did talk about that. We were on vacation we talked about that. We didn't run away from losing the Finals. We looked at it and said, 'Why did we lose? How did we lose? What can we do different? How can we be better as leaders?' And the one thing I kind of wanted for LeBron is to get back to being LeBron, and not trying to be somebody that everybody wanted him to be, in a sense. He seems to understand that, as well."


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sp...0711,0,7732273.story

WHAT A GUY ALWAYS HELPING OTHERS

[SoBig]

Too bad he didn't mentor his team to a ring.

[SoBig]

Youtube video

Kobe at his best.

[SoBig]

Youtube video

Check out those handles. Its a damn shame Kobe never got his two broken fingers fixed. He can't do **** like that anymore. damn shame.

[SoBig]

Originally Posted by Legend killer

Flash was doing some mentoring of his own with Miami's greatest ever Robin

Lets not get it twisted. If anyone is a Robin on the Heat its Wade.

Lebron handles the ball more, takes the most shots, leader on the defensive end, has better stats AND HE CONTROLS THE OFFENSE.

A Robin does none of those things.

You are kidding yourself if you think Wade is better than Lebron.

Wade might have more heart, but he certainly isn't better. Lebron does everything better.

[Legend killer]

As i said on my other thread on talent alone Lechoke is easily the best player but the way he cracks when it comes down to it stops him from being number 1 but not everyone can have the clutch gene like D Wade.i suppose.

Take last year for example Wade is having a poor series by his top 10 ATG standards but still comes up big for Miami at the end of everyone of those games. Than you have Lechoke who had a poor series against Dallas and manages to contribute 8 points taking away Wade's MVP award

Yes it is a big shame Killer Crossovers are not a stat on the statline because Kobe might be on bar With Wade on something LOL

Also please don't talk bout injuries Wade came back from a basketball threatning injury back in 08 his bank mid range jumper was never the same sadly