[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

All this proves is that there are still people about who prefer violence/force to sorting things out the proper way.

Yes as to many times the Working Public
are held up because of Punk Students

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes as to many times the Working Public
are held up because of Punk Students

Well as long as you would think the same way if this had been a woman being chucked off the train in the video...or an elderly person.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Well as long as you would think the same way if this had been a woman being chucked off the train in the video...or an elderly person.

No it was because he was male and rude

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

No it was because he was male and rude

I thought so.

Simply because he is a young male, its fine. Have a feeling this may be the same with the other people who are in support of the 'big man'

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I thought so.

Simply because he is a young male, its fine. Have a feeling this may be the same with the other people who are in support of the 'big man'

I will be honest here: if it was anyone giving the conductor verbals the way this guy did: I don't care what age or sex the person is - I still would not have found fault.

He was asked to remove himself and get off the train several times. He refused. Could it have been handled better? Of course: but the one person who started it all off and continued it, was the yob. All the big man did was put an end to it.

He couldn't produce his ticket

He tone, attitude and behaviour overall was unacceptable.

He refused to remove when he was asked - several times.

Thereafter the lies appeared about him not being allowed to get his bag - when the bag is clearly thrown off the train.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Snowball

I will be honest here: if it was anyone giving the conductor verbals the way this guy did: I don't care what age or sex the person is - I still would not have found fault.

He was asked to remove himself and get off the train several times. He refused. Could it have been handled better? Of course: but the one person who started it all off and continued it, was the yob. All the big man did was put an end to it.

He couldn't produce his ticket

He tone, attitude and behaviour overall was unacceptable.

He refused to remove when he was asked - several times.

Thereafter the lies appeared about him not being allowed to get his bag - when the bag is clearly thrown off the train.

See in my eyes, the only yob in that video was the bloke chucking his weight around.

The other was just rude. Swearing does not make someone a yob...to me anyway.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

See in my eyes, the only yob in that video was the bloke chucking his weight around.

The other was just rude. Swearing does not make someone a yob...to me anyway.

I agree it doesn't, it makes them uncouth and feel like hard men when they use curse words - due to a lack of their own vocabularly and inability to express themselves in an acceptable manner.

What does make a yob is someone who cannot prove they have a ticket, who resorts to swearing at someone who is asking him to do so or leave, who refuses to leave and then lies about not being allowed to get his bag (and most probably lied about his elongated story of having being sold 2 single tickets, realised this earlier on, claims he meant to do somethign about it, didn't but somehow still managed to argue like hell with the conductor saying he gave him the *******ing ticket;....yet he claimed in the news article that he knew he had a wrong ticket and had done nothing to sort it out....as he'd 'intended' on doing').

He didn't give a damn that he was holding up the train, didn't give a damn about the inconvenience HE was causing.

Add all that up, and to me, that is a yob.


Here: according to what he told his father: - now that's a whole different version from what we've all seen on the vid: he was adamant that he HAD to correct ticket:- yet this indicates he knew fine well he didn't.

He said Sam went to the railway station at Polmont at 8am to buy a return ticket, but was told two singles would be cheaper as he planned to return off peak.

He said: 'He was sitting on the train when he noticed both tickets were for Polmont to Edinburgh Park, but he decided to concentrate on his exam and explain the mix-up to the inspector on the train home.

'After his exam he went out for a few drinks. He got on the train and everyone's seen the video, but he's no fare dodger, he was just sold the wrong ticket and the inspector's decided he's off at Linlithgow.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

See in my eyes, the only yob in that video was the bloke chucking his weight around.

The other was just rude. Swearing does not make someone a yob...to me anyway.

Typical From a Pub Worker




Life In The City.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I thought so.

Simply because he is a young male, its fine. Have a feeling this may be the same with the other people who are in support of the 'big man'

Yes as the Big Man got the Train going,

Someone else Chucked his bag out.



The Lad that Filmed it on his mobile
was speaking on bbc breafast and said the Big Man
helped,