[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Rudolph

Well any normal child wouldn't behave in such a way because most parents bring up their children to treat others with respect. Jedwards parents clearly haven't brought them up this way.

Yes I know all sorts happen on it, still no excuse for their behaviour. Ruth had every right to kick off but being the nice mature lady she is, she decided to be the bigger person and didn't opt to do so.

They knew they were going to be a bit crazy yes but nobody was expecting a stunt like that. It wasn't funny, just cruel. I'm sure if Ruth pulled a stunt like that on Jedward you would find it horrid but because it's Jedward it's alright! Total lack of manners and everyone in the studio found it disgusting. That's why they were booing them.

I couldn't care less if their parents read all of this. Maybe then they'll realise what most of the nation thinks of their sons because they seem to live in a bubble where everybody loves them.

No, to the point you make as to if Ruth had done that to them that I would say that was a horrid thing to do. I would have laughed at it just as I did when they did it to Ruth,clearly since last night was a repeat too, Ruth wasn't bothered about it being left in the show so it would seem she doesn't mind anywhere near as much, as you and others are suggesting, who just jump on Jedward for anything.
They act zany, wild and unpredictable with an annoying wind up streak, it is their act for goodness sake.

You don't like them but clearly TV producers/Companies and other TV personalities such as Alan Carr do.
Like all celebrities Jedward have those who like them and those who don't. I don't see the fairness in personally badly insulting them and calling them creatures and then also bringing their Parents into things, (their parents are 'not' in the public eye).
To me that's pretty low by any standards.

[Callum]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No, to the point you make as to if Ruth had done that to them that I would say that was a horrid thing to do. I would have laughed at it just as I did when they did it to Ruth,clearly since last night was a repeat too, Ruth wasn't bothered about it being left in the show so it would seem she doesn't mind anywhere near as much, as you and others are suggesting, who just jump on Jedward for anything.
They act zany, wild and unpredictable with an annoying wind up streak, it is their act for goodness sake.

You don't like them but clearly TV producers/Companies and other TV personalities such as Alan Carr do.
Like all celebrities Jedward have those who like them and those who don't. I don't see the fairness in personally badly insulting them and calling them creatures and then also bringing their Parents into things, (their parents are 'not' in the public eye).
To me that's pretty low by any standards.

Ruth probably doesn't get any say in the matter, the TV producers choose what's left in a programme. I doubt many people actually complained about it to Ofcom, it's more complaining in general about a pair of brats pouring gel all over a woman "for a laugh". Ruth didn't let it get to her, Jedward can't offend her because she doesn't like them. It's likely she'll never meet them again in her life and she's probably pleased about that.

I wouldn't say Alan Carr likes them, you can't prove that. He doesn't choose who goes on his show, the producers do. Jedward are very current so the producers probably thought it would be a good idea to have them on. Alan's talked about not being fond of some of his guests before but he's obliged to act friendly to them because it's his job to do so.

I brought the family into it because it's clear they haven't been brought up to have manners or treat people with respect. If they had been they wouldn't act the way they do constantly. I get the impression they are a pair of twins who have been spoilt all their life and their parents never bothered to teach them about how you treat other people. I'm not blaming them solely of course but part of the blame has to lie with them, you aren't born to act immature for all of your life.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Rudolph

Ruth probably doesn't get any say in the matter, the TV producers choose what's left in a programme. I doubt many people actually complained about it to Ofcom, it's more complaining in general about a pair of brats pouring gel all over a woman "for a laugh". Ruth didn't let it get to her, Jedward can't offend her because she doesn't like them. It's likely she'll never meet them again in her life and she's probably pleased about that.

I wouldn't say Alan Carr likes them, you can't prove that. He doesn't choose who goes on his show, the producers do. Jedward are very current so the producers probably thought it would be a good idea to have them on. Alan's talked about not being fond of some of his guests before but he's obliged to act friendly to them because it's his job to do so.

I brought the family into it because it's clear they haven't been brought up to have manners or treat people with respect. If they had been they wouldn't act the way they do constantly. I get the impression they are a pair of twins who have been spoilt all their life and their parents never bothered to teach them about how you treat other people. I'm not blaming them solely of course but part of the blame has to lie with them, you aren't born to act immature for all of your life.

What on earth did you,do you think of the way acts like Rod Hull, Tommy Cooper,Ant and Dec, The Chuckle Brothers, Dick and Dom act then in their professions, very mature they were/are.All very much older than Jedward too.

People will act any way in show business if it's sucessful in winning bookings and raking in the earnings too.

They are doing an act, they continue it all through in public keeping in character all the time, you and others don't like it but as I said above, many others do,enough to get TV companies and Producers to regularly book them for shows and TV in general too.

That seems to be something you cannot accept but it's a fact, 'if' there was no demand for Jedward they would not be on TV at all, not you clearly, but many others clearly do make it known to powers that be that they 'are' popular on UK TV and I am afraid for you at any rate and those who totally dislike them, they are going to be around and in demand for TV for many years yet, doing their same act just as the people I list above were/are.

I cannot prove Alan Carr likes them obviously, just as similarly you cannot prove he doesn't, so I don't get your point at all on that one however I would guess he has strong input as to who goes on his shows and as for being immature, he acts more immature than most on TV anyway.

Also incidentally, you have not a single idea how they act at home neither, so in that case I still think it wrong to insult and deride their parents,who are 'not' on TV,not in the public eye and who also have another son too.
They've brought them up not to use foul language in public so it appears to me they are doing a lot right and they are both very nice people too.I know that by the way because I have met them, before you fire back with that I cannot know this or that.

[Callum]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

What on earth did you,do you think of the way acts like Rod Hull, Tommy Cooper,Ant and Dec, The Chuckle Brothers, Dick and Dom act then in their professions, very mature they were/are.All very much older than Jedward too.

People will act any way in show business if it's sucessful in winning bookings and raking in the earnings too.

They are doing an act, they continue it all through in public keeping in character all the time, you don;t like it but as I said above, many others od,enough to get TV companies and Producers to regularly book them for shows and TV in general too.

That seems to be something you cannot accept but it's a fact, 'if' there was no demand for Jedward they would not be on TV at all,not you clearly but many others clearly do make it known to powers that be that they are popular on UK TV a dn I am afraid for you at any rate and those who totally dislike them, they are going to be around and in demand for TV for many years yet, doing their same act just as the people I list above were/are.

I cannot prove Alan Carr likes them obviously just as similarly you cannot prove he doesn't so I don;t get your point at all on that one however I would guess he has strong input as to who goes on his shows and as for being immature, he acts more immature than most on TV anyway.

Also incidentally, you have not a single idea how they act at home neither, so in that case I still think it wrong to insult and deride their parents.

Can't be bothered writing a reply for all that, it's clear me and you will never see eye to eye on Jedward. As for your "still be around in years to come" comment, I highly doubt that. They're past their sell by date already, won't be too long before Louis Walsh himself realises that and stops managing them. Majority of the UK are fed up of them and they can't rely on their "huge" number of diehard fans to keep their careers afloat forever. Doesn't help that they're both completely talentless either.

[joeysteele]

[QUOTE=Rudolph;4836145]Can't be bothered writing a reply for all that,

I thank all powers that be for that.

It is however all fact and they will,I predict, be around for many years yet,people like yourself never believed they would last this long let alone be in still even greater demand after over the over 2 years from when they were on X factor.

[Callum]

[QUOTE=joeysteele;4836148]

Originally Posted by Rudolph

Can't be bothered writing a reply for all that,

I thank all powers that be for that.

It is however all fact and they will,I predict, be around for many years yet,people like yourself never believed they would last this long let alone be in still even greater demand after over the over 2 years from when they were on X factor.

They are not in greater demand. It's through Louis Walsh constantly making them appear on any old TV show. He's not daft, he knows that they'll never have a no. 1 single or album because their music is crap. So the only way to make some money from them is to put them on any TV show which will have them. Most of the GBP are sick to the death of them and I expect these frequent TV apperances don't earn them much, Louis will see that soon and drop them and they'll go back to being a pair of talentess brats who nobody, bar about twelve dedicated fans, care about.

[joeysteele]

[QUOTE=Rudolph;4836153]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

They are not in greater demand. It's through Louis Walsh constantly making them appear on any old TV show. He's not daft, he knows that they'll never have a no. 1 single or album because their music is crap. So the only way to make some money from them is to put them on any TV show which will have them. Most of the GBP are sick to the death of them and I expect these frequent TV apperances don't earn them much, Louis will see that soon and drop them and they'll go back to being a pair of talentess brats who nobody, bar about twelve dedicated fans, care about.

Oh for goodness sake, many people would love to be able to be 'made to appear on TV' as you put it, however there is the stumbling block of TV Companies and Producers who decide who gets on TV not their agents and managers who can only put them forward for TV appearances,they cannot 'make' them or make the decision for them to be on TV.
Those decisions are taken by much other hierarchy in the Showbusiness and TV world.

Agents and Managers would love to be in the position you say Louis Walsh and Jedward are in but in reality like a lot of your info above it is respectfully misinformed.