[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Yeah this, thats what I get for skim reading the thread

Michael fans will think that,and would like us who see through him to believe it,but put the boot on the other foot,IF Denise has come out in his hat would she have been doing the same,or would she have been trying to case trouble ?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Michael fans will think that,and would like us who see through him to believe it,but put the boot on the other foot,IF Denise has come out in his hat would she have been doing the same,or would she have been trying to case trouble ?

I couldnt care less what other people believe to be perfectly honest, I'm happy enough to have and stand by my own opinions.

In answer to your question, after seeing the way Michael cares about his hat and the way Denise has been acting in there I would have no doubt that she was trying to cause trouble, but the boots not on the other foot so theres no point in speculating imo.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

I couldnt care less what other people believe to be perfectly honest, I'm happy enough to have and stand by my own opinions.

In answer to your question, after seeing the way Michael cares about his hat and the way Denise has been acting in there I would have no doubt that she was trying to cause trouble, but the boots not on the other foot so theres no point in speculating imo.

So no straight answer then ? Denise would have been winding him up ,but he wasnt winding her up?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

So no straight answer then ? Denise would have been winding him up ,but he wasnt winding her up?

I answered your question in my last post.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

I answered your question in my last post.

Double standards at its very best

[Josy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Double standards at its very best

Not double standards at all, the hat has already caused problems in there, Michael really cares about it for some reason, I don't recall Denise being particularly bothered about her coat.

[wendywillow]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Michael fans will think that,and would like us who see through him to believe it,but put the boot on the other foot,IF Denise has come out in his hat would she have been doing the same,or would she have been trying to case trouble ?

i like them both and the hat has already been an issue so obviously that would cause some problems....denise has been her own worst enemy and it caught up with her when michael could take no more. i HOPE theyre ok now cause it got ugly....if only michael has asked about her we couldve avoided all this!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by wendywillow

i like them both and the hat has already been an issue so obviously that would cause some problems....denise has been her own worst enemy and it caught up with her when michael could take no more. i HOPE theyre ok now cause it got ugly....if only michael has asked about her we couldve avoided all this!

I am talking about last nights show,IF Denise had walked into the garden wearing Michaels hat, would she have been trouble causing ? Yes or No

[wendywillow]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I am talking about last nights show,IF Denise had walked into the garden wearing Michaels hat, would she have been trouble causing ? Yes or No

yes!!! ofcourse....he already had a hissy fit over that ugly hat

[kefln]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I am talking about last nights show,IF Denise had walked into the garden wearing Michaels hat, would she have been trouble causing ? Yes or No

I think your argument kind of falls flat based on the reactions of all the HM’s, including Denise herself, who took it as a gesture of peace. He was called a “legend” more than once.

And the situation of the coat, versus that of a hat, can’t be compared. Because Michaels problem is with Denise invading his space, while Denise’s problem is that Michael is too closed off and won’t open up. Had Denise worn his hat, it would have been seen as another attack on his privacy. While wearing the coat was an attempt to loosen the tense air between them through comedy.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by kefln

I think your argument kind of falls flat based on the reactions of all the HM’s, including Denise herself, who took it as a gesture of peace. He was called a “legend” more than once.

And the situation of the coat, versus that of a hat, can’t be compared. Because Michaels problem is with Denise invading his space, while Denise’s problem is that Michael is too closed off and won’t open up. Had Denise worn his hat, it would have been seen as another attack on his privacy. While wearing the coat was an attempt to loosen the tense air between them through comedy.

trouble is with relationships, if its repetitive behaviour of abuse or intrusion of space, the accumulative behaviour takes effect, until eventually just one more time crossing the line ruins the relationship. madsen has never invaded her space or started ANY argument. she has started every single argument. so this was the first and only time madsen took a chance and actually touched any of her belongings. its was a moment of hollywood genius

[kefln]

Originally Posted by the truth

trouble is with relationships, if its repetitive behaviour of abuse or intrusion of space, the accumulative behaviour takes effect, until eventually just one more time crossing the line ruins the relationship. madsen has never invaded her space or started ANY argument. she has started every single argument. so this was the first and only time madsen took a chance and actually touched any of her belongings. its was a moment of hollywood genius

I'd agree with that.

But I do think that Michaels heart was in the right place. Nothing that we have seen so far would indicate that he's in any way bad minded.