[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Incensed

Yeah, well we do have freedom of speech here!

Exactly and it was that freedom of speech here in the UK that Michael was exercising his right to on BOTS the other night.

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Exactly and it was that freedom of speech here in the UK that Michael was exercising his right to on BOTS the other night.

Err, yeah ok. Snoring is a very intelligent form of communication!

But then if we are to believe your thoughts on the matter, without Michael being in the house there would have been no footage of Denise to be shown on the show

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I KNOW he didn't.

No, you KNOW I did.

And the reason? Because I managed to produce valid, reasoned points, leaving you with no way to respond. You were proven wrong I'm afraid.

Originally Posted by Incensed

Err, yeah ok. Snoring is a very intelligent form of communication!

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Incensed

Err, yeah ok. Snoring is a very intelligent form of communication!

But then if we are to believe your thoughts on the matter, without Michael being in the house there would have been no footage of Denise to be shown on the show

Yep, that about sums it up.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Yep, that about sums it up.

Because of course, Gareth and Michael were the ones that started 'pantsgate' (the most entertaining moment of the series), not Denise

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Because of course, Gareth and Michael were the ones that started 'pantsgate' (the most entertaining moment of the series), not Denise

Perhaps you regard a 53 year old woman exposing a young woman on tv as entertainment. I don't.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Perhaps you regard a 53 year old woman exposing a young woman on tv as entertainment. I don't.

No, but I regarded the resulting argument as fantastic entertainment. It created discussions, led to days and days of debate (some of which is still continuing to this day) and had many people talking. That is entertainment. That is what makes an entertaining housemates. These are not things that can be disputed.

Imagine the series without that argument, without Denise and Michael's constant spats. What other events were there? Because I certainly can't remember any, most discussions focused on these events. Therefore, it was entertainment, and Michael, Denise, the twins and Nicola were all very much entertaining housemates.

If we had you in charge of the show none of the argument would have been broadcast, and only the clips of the housemates having a tea party would have been shown. Imagine that, eh?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Jack_

No, but I regarded the resulting argument as fantastic entertainment. It created discussions, led to days and days of debate (some of which is still continuing to this day) and had many people talking. That is entertainment. That is what makes an entertaining housemates. These are not things that can be disputed.

Imagine the series without that argument, without Denise and Michael's constant spats. What other events were there? Because I certainly can't remember any, most discussions focused on these events. Therefore, it was entertainment, and Michael, Denise, the twins and Nicola were all very much entertaining housemates.

If we had you in charge of the show none of the argument would have been broadcast, and only the clips of the housemates having a tea party would have been shown. Imagine that, eh?

when ARE you going to learn that what you think, what you feel, what you believe is your own view, and not fact. I'll certainly dispute from here to hell and back that pulling down someones trousers was as far removed from being classed as 'fantastic entertainment', as you put it. It is churlish, childish and pathetic behaviour - not fantastic entertaiment - that's my view and I'm intelligent and mature enough to realise that my view in this, is not fact.

Try to avoid getting personal Jack - we are not discussing fms here - we are discussing the show and the housemates - feel free to criticise them, but save your petty insults / critique /criticism for that direction and not towards me.

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Yep, that about sums it up.

So, they wouldn't of course shown the footage of the Jacuzzi or the 'Girls night in' then?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Incensed

So, they wouldn't of course shown the footage of the Jacuzzi or the 'Girls night in' then?

Who knows....... you might want to ask BB's camera crew/ production crew about that.....

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Who knows....... you might want to ask BB's camera crew/ production crew about that.....

Is that the best you can come up with?

You're just showing yourself up now, Pyramid. You know full well that they would have have shown Denise in the Jacuzzi and the 'girls night in'

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Incensed

Err, yeah ok. Snoring is a very intelligent form of communication!

But then if we are to believe your thoughts on the matter, without Michael being in the house there would have been no footage of Denise to be shown on the show

There is nothing to show on the footage to the effect of him snoring. He clicked his mouth but turned away from Denise, possibly through boredom. It was Denise who said he was snoring. We didnt actually see it. He did tell her to calm down, words to that effect and he did mouth something like "I didnt say anything". It seems to me that Denise's actions are all considered as a joke, because she says so, but let anyone else do it then that is wrong.

Michael, the Twins and Nicola gave Denise her stage other than that she was in the coven with Natalie and a couple of others working out the demise of the other HMs when it came to nominations. After all though that is the name of the game. Oh I forgot about the chacuzzi (spelling).....