[Redway]

Originally Posted by Toxic

I opened up a thread for debate, and if I disagree with what people say...I'm going to argue my view point.

This whole forum section is appropriately named 'Serious DEBATES & News Stories' - a debate is when people discuss a subject and give their own views/opinions which are bound to conflict.

What your saying is people should post their views and then have zero discussion about it afterwards, what's the point in that?

Isn't that what you're doing?

[Toxic]

Originally Posted by Redway

Isn't that what you're doing?

Not at all.

I posted my views, you posted yours, then I told you I disagree, you told me you disagree, and it continues.....because it's a DEBATE.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Toxic

Not at all.

I posted my views, you posted yours, then I told you I disagree, you told me you disagree, and it continues.....because it's a DEBATE.

No, you told me that I cannot disagree with what gay people do.

THIS IS NOT AN OPINION BUT A STATEMENT OF FACT, TELLING ME WHAT I SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T BELIEVE.

First of all, I have no issue with what gays do - but others do, which, again, is fine.

You're telling people that their views are wrong and you're wrong, mate. Get it?

[Toxic]

Originally Posted by Redway

No, you told me that I cannot disagree with what gay people do.

THIS IS NOT AN OPINION BUT A STATEMENT OF FACT, TELLING ME WHAT I SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T BELIEVE.

First of all, I have no issue with what gays do - but others do, which, again, is fine.

You're telling people that their views are wrong and you're wrong, mate. Get it?

It's fine to bigots yes, but to people who believe in equal rights for all it's totally disgusting.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

No, you told me that I cannot disagree with what gay people do.

THIS IS NOT AN OPINION BUT A STATEMENT OF FACT, TELLING ME WHAT I SHOULD AND SHOULDN'T BELIEVE.

First of all, I have no issue with what gays do - but others do, which, again, is fine.

You're telling people that their views are wrong and you're wrong, mate. Get it?

The thing is, is that gay people don't like being told that being gay is wrong (which I can understand as imo it isn't wrong) but yet won't let people have there opinions on gay being wrong despite Toxic opening up the topic themself.

I don't get how that makes any of us ignorant or homophobic.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toxic

Yep.

Some members have been using the argument that it's alright to disagree with homosexuality - which it isn't because being gay is something people are born with, it's the same as being born with brown/blonde/ginger hair.

Other members have posted down right offensive stuff, such as saying "gay marriage is for fags" and "I think gay people are cute with their little pugs because they can't reproduce.....don't blame me, blame god".

No. You asked for an opinion on gay marriage.
As for being born gay, that's a different debate altogether. One which I disagree with you on.

Originally Posted by Toxic

But you can't disagree with gay people, it's an impossibility, gay people are a fact of life.

What? Just like people can't like black people? Homophobia and racism is also a fact of life. Horrible, but true.

Originally Posted by Toxic

Not at all.

I posted my views, you posted yours, then I told you I disagree, you told me you disagree, and it continues.....because it's a DEBATE.

No. You told Redway he wasn't allowed to disagree.

But, either way, that kind of attitude is wasted on Redway. He's said several times he himself has no problems with gay people or gay marriage. He's discussing people that do.