[MatthewS]

Originally Posted by rinkydinkpanther

sorry I meant to write her in number 1 (its late im getting sloppy lol)
yes she is a joke

got to say generally over the years the female housemates have done this more than the males, though tonight we saw luke s start up a load of nonsense for no reason.

I detest this behaviour and in real life is I see a person deliberately provoking another just to get a reaction and when they get it they bring out the crocodile tears. my revenge is simple. I only have to witness this once and that person will never be able to call on me as a friend....I would never employ such a person, befriend such a person, I would leave such a person during a date, or during a 6 month affair....I just do not tolerate it....this crap gets rewarded daily by people who sell stories kiss and tells etc these people do not realise that the silent majority look on this manipulative behaviour with disgust....the irony is such people sell their stories and their sex tapes, get paid a fortune, then complain why no one respects them...if u sell yoru soul, you dont get it back

You know that this is a reality TV show and the producers play up every tiny trivial thing right? In a lot of cases we don't see the whole picture and no matter how much we see, we don't actually know these people, so its a bit unfair to judge them so harshly. I think Shiv is a prime example. She seems pretty bitchy, but if you happened to grab coffee with her and have a chat in real life, she very well could be a decent lass. Maybe just something to keep in mind.