[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Yayita

Having knowledge is important, I lose all respect for someone who admits they are stupid, its a horrible thing to say about yourself. Saying he is stupid does not redeem him, his problem is not one of book smarts or street smarts; it is common sense behavior, etiquette and manners this is what failed him in the house.

Well that's where I am different, I would rather have and would respect far more people who admiited their failings, You just don't like him anyway so he could never do right with you at all.

I'd rather have people around me who admitted they got things wrong a lot of the time or some of the time, than someone in an ivory tower who thinks they are above everyone else and should automatically get respect while never admitting they do/say or even can do/say anything wrong.

I make mistakes,big ones too, I say daft things at times, I can be childish.I can also speak without thinking and am happy to admit all that, no human being is perfect, show me a person that says they are and there is a liar.

[flamingGalah!]

What an absolute twat...

[smartalec2718]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well that's where I am different, I would rather have and would respect far more people who admiited their failings, You just don't like him anyway so he could never do right with you at all.

I'd rather have people around me who admitted they got things wrong a lot of the time or some of the time, than someone in an ivory tower who thinks they are above everyone else and should automatically get respect while never admitting they do/say or even can do/say anything wrong.

I make mistakes,big ones too, I say daft things at times, I can be childish.I can also speak without thinking and am happy to admit all that, no human being is perfect, show me a person that says they are and there is a liar.

The difference is that it took an eviction and Brian/Emma literally DRAGGING the apologies out of him before he admitted a lot of his actions were wrong. He made one apology to Deana in the house, the sincerity of which can be debated, and then went right back to slating her even worse than before, because he teamed up with Conor.

He also admitted he is "stupid" and "uneducated," which I a) don't think anyone should say about themselves and b) don't think is an excuse for his behavior in the house. But he never claimed while in the house that he felt "bullied" by the likes of Adam and Luke A. So to me it seems shifty that he comes out with this "bullying" nonsense AFTER he's come out and seen what kind of reception he got.

Besides, neither Becky nor Deana nor anyone else in the house claims to have been "perfect," so I'm not sure what the point of your last paragraph is.

[Yayita]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well that's where I am different, I would rather have and would respect far more people who admiited their failings, You just don't like him anyway so he could never do right with you at all.

I'd rather have people around me who admitted they got things wrong a lot of the time or some of the time, than someone in an ivory tower who thinks they are above everyone else and should automatically get respect while never admitting they do/say or even can do/say anything wrong.

I make mistakes,big ones too, I say daft things at times, I can be childish.I can also speak without thinking and am happy to admit all that, no human being is perfect, show me a person that says they are and there is a liar.

So do I, we all make mistakes and i dont hate arron, i think he aligned with the wrong people and acted out badly. my point is simple, he is using the word stupid when he should be saying he behaved wrong, lost his manners and compassion, became a spitefull bully and apologize.. but dont say your stupid, its a cop out.