[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

and why are you focusing on gun shots? does it honestly matter to you if your family member was killed by gunshot, or knife, or rope?? the facts are that the US is one of the safest and least violent countries in the world, and actually the UK has higher violent cfrime rates than the US. Why are you so obsessed with gun shot homocides, if you compare Europe as a whole with the USA it's about the same, so no, this is not a US problem, Europe is just as violent and has similar rates of homocide as the USA.

IF i have to choose between getting shot or stabbed, i'd choose getting shot.

The point is that it doesn't matter how tyou kill someone. You are selectively usaing statistics to be anti-gun when in fact having guns has nothing to do with it.

South America has some of the strictest gun laws in the world, they also have the highest number of murder rates, so wtf does guns have to do with it??

Once again you have proven that yur username is ironic.

Good effort to support guns fair play. shame you have to swear so much sort of makes you look stupid. Also to choose ways to be murdered is also insane and in incredibly bad taste. I repeat death by guns statistics are way higher per head in america than any other civilized nation. now why do you think this is and why do you ignore it? do you think america should have 300 million guns? maybe you think they should have more? how many more? 500 million ? 1000 million? should every adult and every child have a hand gun each? where do you draw the line?

also your claim that deaths by guns is as high in europe as america is a lie. also the european population in total is almst twice as much as america. however it is the death rate per person we need to concern ourselves with here. america has harsher sentences , longer sentences, more executions, yet still the gun murders are miles and miles ahead of the rest of the civilized world? I want to see this reduced ? do you? Ive made my suggestions, what are yours>?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by the truth

Good effort to support guns fair play. shame you have to swear so much sort of makes you look stupid. Also to choose ways to be murdered is also insane and in incredibly bad taste. I repeat death by guns statistics are way higher per head in america than any other civilized nation. now why do you think this is and why do you ignore it? do you think america should have 300 million guns? maybe you think they should have more? how many more? 500 million ? 1000 million? should every adult and every child have a hand gun each? where do you draw the line?

also your claim that deaths by guns is as high in europe as america is a lie. also the european population in total is almst twice as much as america. however it is the death rate per person we need to concern ourselves with here. america has harsher sentences , longer sentences, more executions, yet still the gun murders are miles and miles ahead of the rest of the civilized world? I want to see this reduced ? do you? Ive made my suggestions, what are yours>?

you obviously didn't read my post. I said that homicide rates (by any means) is similar in Europe. You missed the entire point of my post obviously.

I never said "by guns". the entire point of my post is that Europe has similar homicide rates, even though it's not by guns. why are you so obsessed with guns??

...AND you totally ignored my point about South America having way less guns and far stricter gun laws, but having way more homicide rates...

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

you obviously didn't read my post. I said that homicide rates (by any means) is similar in Europe. You missed the entire point of my post obviously.

you missed my points too in my original post and my previous one. I have read your reply. There was very little substance in it. you simply swore a lot and made false claims and appeared to suppport keeping easy access to guns for everyone including lunatics such as the recent killer? youre attitude appears to be who cares keep the guns flooding onto the streets. you have also totally ignored all my questions in a very cowardly way. clearly you think your own ego and appearing cool is more important than the deaths of 8775 mostly innocent people? youre attitude is a disgrace.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by the truth

you missed my points too in my original post and my previous one. I have read your reply. There was very little substance in it. you simply swore a lot and made false claims and appeared to suppport keeping easy access to guns for everyone including lunatics such as the recent killer? youre attitude appears to be who cares keep the guns flooding onto the streets. you have also totally ignored all my questions in a very cowardly way. clearly you think your own ego and appearing cool is more important than the deaths of 8775 mostly innocent people? youre attitude is a disgrace.

you seem obsessed with swear words. please count the number of swear words i used. tell me how many. i was not swearing at you. You are being ridiculous now, to the point that it's actually hard to tell if you are being serious.

I am not a disgrace, i'm simply challenging your bigoted stereotypes.

i don't know where you get the 8775 figure from, but i'd like to see you produce a figure of the number of Europeans killed in the same time frame, do you have that number too?? or are you just spouting figures with nothing to compare it to??

[the truth]

Originally Posted by lostalex

you seem obsessed with swear words. please count the number of swear words i used. tell me how many. i was not swearing at you. You are being ridiculous now, to the point that it's actually hard to tell if you are being serious.

I am not a disgrace, i'm simply challenging your bigoted stereotypes.

i don't know where you get the 8775 figure from, but i'd like to see you produce a figure of the number of Europeans killed in the same time frame, do you have that number too?? or are you just spouting figures with nothing to compare it to??

unlike you I actually do my homeork and I do know my figures. if you wish to have a proper debate I suggest you do likewise , rather than make up figures to suit your own twisted argument. I believe you are a bigot, you abuse people on here , you name call them and you swear constantly, in addition to providing false information. I dont spout, these figures were deaths by guns last year as Ive stated a few times already.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by the truth

unlike you I actually do my homeork and I do know my figures. if you wish to have a proper debate I suggest you do likewise , rather than make up figures to suit your own twisted argument. I believe you are a bigot, you abuse people on here , you name call them and you swear constantly, in addition to providing false information. I dont spout, these figures were deaths by guns last year as Ive stated a few times already.

okay, you have all yur figures and sources in order, so then why arn't you answering the questions that i asked?

are thou drunk or something? you don't seem to be grasping my responses at all. All you can do is accuse me of abusing you lol.