[Silent Scream]

Originally Posted by jet

You are correct that nom reasons count for nothing (a lot of the time, not always) but you are missing my point, which is how HYPOCRITICAL these people are. A lot can be learned about the HM's by their nominations and the reasons they give - and the reasons given by Martin, Coleen, Prince and the boys show their total hypocrisy and cowardice.
Not one of them has had the guts to talk to Julie about how they felt. They let her carry on doing what they didn't like and talked about her behind her back.

If one or more of them had talked to her about her behaviour she might have thought about it and took it on board - she seems like that sort of person. But they let her think they all still adored her, continuing to be pleasant to her face or like the boys, calling her 'Nan'. Julie may well have thought they enjoyed her banter and little bitchy remarks. Which is probably why she was shocked to be up for nomination.

They are all worse than she is when it comes to being two faced and game playing!

PS MARTIN would win the weakest competition nomination - especially the face to face ones, which showed just how much of a coward he is.

Can you please point out where Julie explained to Colleen why she has such a big problem with her? I must have missed it that particular face to face confrontation. Julie has not been honest with anyone about her nominations she has confronted nobody face to face.

She wanted Lorenzo out then went grovelling to him when she was caught in the act trying to influence noms. She went round EVERYONE before noms trying to get them to like her, it didn't work. She does exactly what you say all the others do.

Just accept it, people will nominate who they like. They are not under any obligation to confront people they nominate or explain anything to them at all. Getting outed as a two-faced bitch will get you up for eviction pronto, it doesn't matter a **** what the nomination reasons are.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Silent Scream

Can you please point out where Julie explained to Colleen why she has such a big problem with her? I must have missed it that particular face to face confrontation. Julie has not been honest with anyone about her nominations she has confronted nobody face to face.

She wanted Lorenzo out then went grovelling to him when she was caught in the act trying to influence noms. She went round EVERYONE before noms trying to get them to like her, it didn't work. She does exactly what you say all the others do.

Just accept it, people will nominate who they like. They are not under any obligation to confront people they nominate or explain anything to them at all. Getting outed as a two-faced bitch will get you up for eviction pronto, it doesn't matter a **** what the nomination reasons are.

Julie hasn't spent the entire series yabbering on about why Coleen doesn't like her,or anyone else for that matter. Maybe you missed the fact that Coleen said she WAS going to confront her and that she talks obsessively about her - and nominated her. It is Coleen who has the big problem with Julie - and talks to everyone but Julie about it - not the other way around!
Julie had not confronted anybody because she hadn't a big enough problem with anybody.
...and when a group turn on a HM en masse and nominate them for something the person hasn't even been aware they were all bothered about - that is horrible and uncomfortable viewing.

[Silent Scream]

Originally Posted by jet

Julie hasn't spent the entire series yabbering on about why Coleen doesn't like her,or anyone else for that matter. Maybe you missed the fact that Coleen said she WAS going to confront her and that she talks obsessively about her - and nominated her. It is Coleen who has the big problem with Julie - and talks to everyone but Julie about it - not the other way around!
Julie had not confronted anybody because she hadn't a big enough problem with anybody.

Have you been watching the show? Julie didn't have a problem with anybody including Colleen? Really?

I suppose like the rest of us you got completely confused with her telling them all she loves them one minute and then spitting on them as soon as they're at a safe distance.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Silent Scream

Have you been watching the show? Julie didn't have a problem with anybody including Colleen? Really?

I suppose like the rest of us you got completely confused with her telling them all she loves them one minute and then spitting on them as soon as they're at a safe distance.

Have you actually read what I posted? I said she didn't have a BIG enough problem with them that she felt the need to talk about people behind their backs over and over to anyone who would listen. Unlike Colleen, who does just that about Julie. The other HM's are also ganging up on Julie and talking about her behind her back and have a big problem with her as many nominated her.
GET IT? GOT IT? GOOD!

[the truth]

Originally Posted by jet

Julie hasn't spent the entire series yabbering on about why Coleen doesn't like her,or anyone else for that matter. Maybe you missed the fact that Coleen said she WAS going to confront her and that she talks obsessively about her - and nominated her. It is Coleen who has the big problem with Julie - and talks to everyone but Julie about it - not the other way around!
Julie had not confronted anybody because she hadn't a big enough problem with anybody.
...and when a group turn on a HM en masse and nominate them for something the person hasn't even been aware they were all bothered about - that is horrible and uncomfortable viewing.

spot on I agree with you
julie is a complex character, absolutely hilarious, yes she is crude and she doesn contradict herself, but she is what she is, she goes for it and entertains everyone. she has also told people soe things to their face too. colleen is the most boring hm in history. julie has her faults but guess wht, shes human like us all!