[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

My thoughts too, and to hell with the ''give them treatment, they need to be rehabilitated'' believers: I very much doubt they'd feel that way if one of their own had suffered.

In cases like this I really think they should lock themin a room with the families of the victim...it will never happen but think of the sense of justice the people will get... Failing that they should have pedophile tattooed on their foreheads o they can never escape the stigma of what they have done...their victims never will

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I meant to say Pyramid and KIzzy

I'm more sick of it than you believe me.

[Jake.]

just makes me feel sick

[Mrluvaluva]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

My thoughts too, and to hell with the ''give them treatment, they need to be rehabilitated'' believers: I very much doubt they'd feel that way if one of their own had suffered.

I agree. I just read this too. It absolutely sickens me.

[Jake.]

God that's just ****ing disgusting. What a terrible world we live in.

[Kizzy]

I cannot believe my eyes.....twisted human, much as I hate to ill will anyone. What could drive a person to that?

[Munchkins]

Originally Posted by kizzy

I cannot believe my eyes.....twisted human, much as I hate to ill will anyone. What could drive a person to that?

Someone whos just pure evil inside..

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Munchkins

Someone whos just pure evil inside..

Spot on
Are there more of these people than there were?...They seem to be everywhere lately.
Soulless voids with no concience

[Munchkins]

Originally Posted by kizzy

Spot on
Are there more of these people than there were?...They seem to be everywhere lately.
Soulless voids with no concience

They were less caught in the past, and it was not as discusssed as much i think.. :/
the amount of stories is just horrific

[Nedusa]

Are paedophiles " pure evil" as has been suggested in various posts or are they Mentally ill , should they be put in mainstream prisons ( albeit in a separate section) or should they be treated in a secure hospital with the full range of treatments depending on the degree of their illness ie therapy to full castration.

That They should not be allowed out in public is something we can all agree on...!!!

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by anniek76

In cases like this I really think they should lock themin a room with the families of the victim...it will never happen but think of the sense of justice the people will get... Failing that they should have pedophile tattooed on their foreheads o they can never escape the stigma of what they have done...their victims never will

Part of me hates the baying crowd out for blood - but when it involves innocent children and suchlike (same with those who beat OAPs etc to a pulp for Ł2 etc) - the most vulnerable and least able to protect themselves - in those cases - esp the kiddies who can suffer psychologically in the most awful ways for the rest of their lives; I'm prepared to let justice be met outwith the courts - particularly given the pathetic sentences metted out these days: and of how little time is actually served.

Originally Posted by Mrluvaluva

I agree. I just read this too. It absolutely sickens me.

Having read that story, and the heartbreaking comments about one of the young boys writing suicide notes - a laddie not even a teenager: I really honestly see no reason to keep sick gits like this alive - I'm serious about that. Pay for their upkeep in prison for whatever paltry time they actually serve - nope: when there is irrefutible proof as in the link you've provided shows: a lethal injection would be more than appropriate. Harsh view but there you have it.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Are paedophiles " pure evil" as has been suggested in various posts or are they Mentally ill , should they be put in mainstream prisons ( albeit in a separate section) or should they be treated in a secure hospital with the full range of treatments depending on the degree of their illness ie therapy to full castration.

That They should not be allowed out in public is something we can all agree on...!!!

In this world of people quoting the Human Rights Act - full castration is most likely never going to happen.

Should they be kept away from public - absolutely. Preferrably whilst feeding the worms - may as well have them serve some purpose.

As for ''are they evil or mentally ill''? That kinda stopped me in my tracks..... conscience tells me that if they are mentally ill that my views on getting rid of them is very wrong - that said: it's claimed many serial killers are mentally ill - I'd still have them be given their last injection - anyone who has an inbuilt desire to hurt or abuse other human beings in the most depraved and sick ways - and is smart enough to chose the most vulnerable who cannot fight back isn't 'that' mentally ill....... it's inbuilt, I doubt it would ever really change and the danger is still always there (IMO). That's not saying this is the case: it's simply my view.

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

In this world of people quoting the Human Rights Act - full castration is most likely never going to happen.

Should they be kept away from public - absolutely. Preferrably whilst feeding the worms - may as well have them serve some purpose.

As for ''are they evil or mentally ill''? That kinda stopped me in my tracks..... conscience tells me that if they are mentally ill that my views on getting rid of them is very wrong - that said: it's claimed many serial killers are mentally ill - I'd still have them be given their last injection - anyone who has an inbuilt desire to hurt or abuse other human beings in the most depraved and sick ways - and is smart enough to chose the most vulnerable who cannot fight back isn't 'that' mentally ill....... it's inbuilt, I doubt it would ever really change and the danger is still always there (IMO). That's not saying this is the case: it's simply my view.

Good Post, I agree when Mental Illness coincides with acts of extreme evil and depravity, it's maybe time to admit as a Society that people who sadly have these mental afflictions cannot ever , ever be allowed to rejoin society. Maybe the concept of treatment and rehabilitation does not apply.

If you look at the number of so called rehabilitated "paedophiles" that have gone on to rape or molest , then this kinda proves the point.

This is such a taboo subject and is desperately sad for ALL concerned.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Good Post, I agree when Mental Illness coincides with acts of extreme evil and depravity, it's maybe time to admit as a Society that people who sadly have these mental afflictions cannot ever , ever be allowed to rejoin society. Maybe the concept of treatment and rehabilitation does not apply.

If you look at the number of so called rehabilitated "paedophiles" that have gone on to rape or molest , then this kinda proves the point.

This is such a taboo subject and is desperately sad for ALL concerned.

The part that doesn't sit well with me is the fact that these types is thta whether they are classed as being mentally ill - they are not that mentally ill that they cannot (often) plan carefully and target the most vulnerable, and are able to cover their tracks. How often do you hear of stories of these types 'selecting' for example: a 15 year old boy who is well built, fully fit, tall, sporty type and more than able to 'handle themselves' - very very few. So it's often a very calculated, well thought out specific targetting.

More concerningly is when the supposed pillars of society are at it - judges, doctors, police, etc: that's when it really pales into unbelievable levels of depravity - these are highly intelligent people who know right from wrong and are in priviledged positions: who have the capacity to seek 'help' for themselves - but don't - instead they chose to follow their sick desires.

[fruit_cake]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

The part that doesn't sit well with me is the fact that these types is thta whether they are classed as being mentally ill - they are not that mentally ill that they cannot (often) plan carefully and target the most vulnerable, and are able to cover their tracks. How often do you hear of stories of these types 'selecting' for example: a 15 year old boy who is well built, fully fit, tall, sporty type and more than able to 'handle themselves' - very very few. So it's often a very calculated, well thought out specific targetting.

More concerningly is when the supposed pillars of society are at it - judges, doctors, police, etc: that's when it really pales into unbelievable levels of depravity - these are highly intelligent people who know right from wrong and are in priviledged positions: who have the capacity to seek 'help' for themselves - but don't - instead they chose to follow their sick desires.

exactly, truth appears to be that they aren't mentally ill at all, they seem to be just evil cowards who prey on vulnerable people. The mind boggles as to why certain types spend their life times defending these people, giving them all the excuses under the sun for their behaviour.

[Kizzy]

I do believe it it is a mental illness, I don't believe you can rehabilitate though, I would go so far as to say that it was impossible.
It may be that as they are experts in manipulation.. that these highly inteligent deviants can fool psychologists into thinking they are rehabilitated?
I see it as a type of psychopathy, they are 'driven' to do these things 'compelled' and like psycohpaths they have no empathy or compassion for thier victims.
They are 'wired up' wrong, through nature or nurture we don't know, once a chemical change has occured in the brain it can never be reversed.
This is my veiw now, following this programme.

Youtube video

[arista]

Yes kizzy
Great Docu Clip.

Wired Wrong go to Prison

[chuff me dizzy]

What on earth was the Mother thinking about letting a 4 yr old go into a public toilet by himself in the first place?

[Pyramid*]

Surprised there hasn't been more about this in the way of update (or maybe time is just passing very slowly for me).