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Old 20-10-2012, 11:36 AM #1
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Well you could argue from there that his religious obligations are not being upheld or taken into account.
No, I couldn't because, apparently, he has NO faith (and presumably no " religious obligations") so therefore nothing to pledge to ...... the Scouts do not insist that the faith has to include a "God":

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No, I couldn't because, apparently, he has NO faith (and presumably no " religious obligations") so therefore nothing to pledge to ...... the Scouts do not insist that the faith has to include a "God":

Well he chooses not to believe. That's his obligation.

A lot of kids practice (and I use the term loosely) religion in order to please their peers, when they don't necessarily believe in that. I really don't see the point in this. What is the point to faith if you do not believe in it? And being excluded because of your belief is surely not right? Would the church ban you from services if you did not join in prayer or hymns?

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Well he chooses not to believe. That's his obligation.
I don't think you mean "obligation" (An obligation is a course of action that someone is required to take, whether legal or moral.), but I get your gist.

If he doesn't believe in a spiritual existence or entity then he can't join the Scouts - endof.

If he waits until he's 12, he will be eligible to join the Army Cadet Force :

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I don't think they'll see a lack of spirituality as a problem,

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I don't think you mean "obligation" (An obligation is a course of action that someone is required to take, whether legal or moral.), but I get your gist.

If he doesn't believe in a spiritual existence or entity then he can't join the Scouts - endof.

If he waits until he's 12, he will be eligible to join the Army Cadet Force :

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I don't think they'll see a lack of spirituality as a problem,
I know what I mean thanks.

Obligation - The act of binding oneself by a social, legal, or moral tie.

He has no religious tie as he chooses not to believe. That is his obligation. I can't think of many instances where you are obliged to conform to a religious body.

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I know what I mean thanks.

Obligation - The act of binding oneself by a binding social, legal, or moral tie

He has no religious tie as he chooses not to believe. That is his obligation.
If you say so .....
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Well he chooses not to believe. That's his obligation.A lot of kids practice (and I use the term loosely) religion in order to please their peers, when they don't necessarily believe in that. I really don't see the point in this. What is the point to faith if you do not believe in it? And being excluded because of your belief is surely not right? Would the church ban you from services if you did not join in prayer or hymns?
The family are upholding their beliefs , but expecting the Scouts to have a look at theirs and change them to suit it seems, spoilt pushy parent syndrome.
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