[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

A lot of Jewish people who agree that the Jews learned nothing from the Holocaust? You think there are many Jews around who would agree with that?

If he'd stuck to the supposed point of what he was struggling to say without the Holocaust comment then maybe he would have had more Jews agree. But because of this comment his opinion means nothing to me because he's marked himself out as a tactless idiot.

he didnt say that. and yes there are jewish people who agree with some of what he did say. your reaction to him saying something you didnt aree with is for you in name to verbaly abuse and name call him, which makes you hypocritical

[Livia]

Originally Posted by the truth

he didnt say that. and yes there are jewish people who agree with some of what he did say. your reaction to him saying something you didnt aree with is for you in name to verbaly abuse and name call him, which makes you hypocritical

I find his comments just before Holocaust Memorial Day deeply offensive. The family of every Jew I know - and that's probably a few more than you - was affected in some way by the Holocaust. If he wants to talk about the Israeli/Palestinian issue then he should do that and not muddy the waters with ridiculous remarks.

My reaction is my reaction. Please don't call me hypocritical for my opinion. If you do, I will be forced to give you my opinion of you and then the thread gets locked.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Livia

I find his comments just before Holocaust Memorial Day deeply offensive. The family of every Jew I know - and that's probably a few more than you - was affected in some way by the Holocaust. If he wants to talk about the Israeli/Palestinian issue then he should do that and not muddy the waters with ridiculous remarks.

My reaction is my reaction. Please don't call me hypocritical for my opinion. If you do, I will be forced to give you my opinion of you and then the thread gets locked.

I think your point here and in particular how you wish to censor this mans freedom of speech and how you say you are offended by him and you choose to react to this by abusing him. I find that hypocritical. Millions of people have thought what this MP has said, including Jewish and non Jewish and even some zionists too...if the mods want to close a thread or ban me for that , so be it.I have some jewish lineage and some Jewish friends, maybe not as many as you as I live in the wilderness (the locals saved 200 Jewish people in world war 2 by giving them gwyrch castle and clothing and feeding them even when they were on rations themselves, these are good people)...But I know a fair few Jewish people. none of whom have explained any sort of offfence caused by this statement. many have said similar things before. many jews are upset with how the Israel / Palestine conflict escalates and many are not happy with the leadership. Jews and non jews should be allowed to express this opinion in a free democracy. Obama takes a slightly more objective view than the republican leaders, yet Obama still has the majority jewish vote. why is that? maybe because the majority of Jewish people do not want such a hardline stance as netentahu has taken. the endless illegal building houses marches on regardless and no one is even allowed to say how wrong it is for fear of reprisal?

Please also note in addition to the disgusting demonic sickness of nazi hate towards the jews, and the disgusting murder of 6 million Jews, they hated a lot of others too, the communists, the disabled amongst them. at the end of this carnage 25 million russians lay dead and over 50 million dead around the world. 70 years later surely lessons must be learned by everyone.