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Since when did sexuality define the kind of environment that can be provided to children?? It was a ridiculous thing to say. Can a jobless teenager provide a safer environment, or a mother and father in a domestic violence situation etc..etc.. His reasoning is crazy...
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Since when did sexuality define the kind of environment that can be provided to children?? It was a ridiculous thing to say. Can a jobless teenager provide a safer environment, or a mother and father in a domestic violence situation etc..etc.. His reasoning is crazy...
What's so bad about jobless teenagers? It's impossible to defend one demographic by slighting another.
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What's so bad about jobless teenagers? It's impossible to defend one demographic by slighting another.
I didn't intend to slight a demographic Kizzy, my question was can a jobless teenager provide a safer environment that a gay couple...the answer is one cannot say as it is down to the individual parenting skills so you cannot sweepingly say that gay couples can not provide a safe envirnoment.. I found it a ridiculous arguement and was trying to provide an analogy...
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I didn't intend to slight a demographic Kizzy, my question was can a jobless teenager provide a safer environment that a gay couple...the answer is one cannot say as it is down to the individual parenting skills so you cannot sweepingly say that gay couples can not provide a safe envirnoment.. I found it a ridiculous arguement and was trying to provide an analogy...
''Can a jobless teenager provide a safer environment, or a mother and father in a domestic violence situation''

In this analogy one can and one can't.
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''Can a jobless teenager provide a safer environment, or a mother and father in a domestic violence situation''

In this analogy one can and one can't.
So you are saying categorically that a jobless teenager can provide a safer environment than a gay couple?

My point being that no one would come out and say a teeneager should not have the right to children but it's acceptable to say it about a gay couple?
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So you are saying categorically that a jobless teenager can provide a safer environment than a gay couple?

My point being that no one would come out and say a teeneager should not have the right to children but it's acceptable to say it about a gay couple?
I'm not saying anything annie you are, are you saying catagorically that they can't?

Some might say that yes, and no it's not acceptable to say this about anyone. You should always judge everyone on their individual merits to avoid stereotyping.
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I didn't intend to slight a demographic Kizzy, my question was can a jobless teenager provide a safer environment that a gay couple...the answer is one cannot say as it is down to the individual parenting skills so you cannot sweepingly say that gay couples can not provide a safe envirnoment.. I found it a ridiculous arguement and was trying to provide an analogy...
you argued against generalizations about groups of people, by using a generalization about a dfferent group of people.

when deciding who adopts children all factors are taken into account, economics, employment, stable relationships, health, criminal record, education, everything...hes percetly entitled to his opinion, though he does seem to have worded it very poorly...the figures show gay couples are less stable than hetrosexual ones on average,also that a child with a mother and a father has a better chance of a successful life, but its absurd to say its the case for all couples?.ive not studied this subject so I dont know who is best suited, obviously a warm caring loving honest decent person sounds like essential prerequisites to me. I do wonder if part of his quote has been deliberately left out by trouble making journalists though
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you argued against generalizations about groups of people, by using a generalization about a dfferent group of people.

when deciding who adopts children all factors are taken into account, economics, employment, stable relationships, health, criminal record, education, everything...hes percetly entitled to his opinion, though he does seem to have worded it very poorly...the figures show gay couples are less stable than hetrosexual ones on average,also that a child with a mother and a father has a better chance of a successful life, but its absurd to say its the case for all couples?.ive not studied this subject so I dont know who is best suited, obviously a warm caring loving honest decent person sounds like essential prerequisites to me. I do wonder if part of his quote has been deliberately left out by trouble making journalists though
If you had read my other posts you will see that admittedly I did not state my case very well but I do believe that parenting skills have nothing to do with sexuality and I do have experience in the whole subject of adoption etc

...the bit in bold, I do wholeheartedly agree with...
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If you had read my other posts you will see that admittedly I did not state my case very well but I do believe that parenting skills have nothing to do with sexuality and I do have experience in the whole subject of adoption etc

...the bit in bold, I do wholeheartedly agree with...
its on a case by case basis, if he said what he said the way he said I disagree with him....I wouldnt be suprised if our hysterical media edited his comments but I dont know for sure.
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