[Nedusa]

"The owners of this country know the truth: It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."

George Carlin.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Well those prisons are run by private corporations, not the state, which means they have shareholders and lobbyists. That's why they are the country that imprisons more of it's own citizens than nearly any other country on earth. Prisons are big business, which in itself is a pretty disgusting thing in my opinion. There is one state that has a 3 strikes and you're out rule, which means if you are convicted of any number of offences 3 times, you'll get a mandatory life sentence. Possession of marijuana 3 times equals a life sentence. Yet the prisons have lobbyists paying money to people in government to prevent these laws from being changed. The system is rigged massively.

America spends more on defence than the next 13 countries below them. Combined. Besides, the Bush government knew all about OBL's plot, they just didn't take it seriously enough. That was without all the currently fashionable spying and wiretapping. You can still defend the country, just without having to watch every individual in order to do so.

I agree that the system is rigged against people who chose to not live by the society's laws. edit: I guess a flaw might be the way an organisation who's main interest is profit and punishment is in control.

And I think America underestimated how radical and insane these people who hate them are. I don't think America will make the same mistake again.

Originally Posted by Nedusa

"The owners of this country know the truth: It's called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it."

George Carlin.

That's the thing this Snowden guy must have been dreaming. He seemed to not realise what his own country was up to, maybe he believed in some dreamland america. And he went and joined two spy organisations and was shocked to find out that they spied on people