[kefln]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

He's clearly not really threatening her. Watch the clip again, and you'll see that before all this there is just swearing, an unfortunate consequence of his poor vocabulary. Then, whilst they do their awkward teenage wrestling/are-slapping sex-substitute dance, Daley seeks permission to step up the intensity, asking if he should get "aggressive", whislt clearly stating that he would never hit her. She replies "go for it" and he totally overshoots, misjudging BB, the situation and Hazel. He still thinks they're in the game and his dirty talk is doing the business, which is why he's so surprised when BB intervenes, and even more surprised when Hazel then says she was threatened. An ex once stuck her thumb in my bum thinking I'd love it because her ex did. I ddn't, but I also do not think that she anally raped me.

Yes, watch that clip again. Watch as that well built man, professional trained boxer, grabs a girl by the throat, tells her that she needs to respect him, then forces her to lie down, before threatening her with a headbutt to the face.

Got to love an argument than tries to pin the violent acts of others, on the victims.

[optimisticcynic]

Originally Posted by kefln

Yes, watch that clip again. Watch as that well built man, professional trained boxer, grabs a girl by the throat, tells her that she needs to respect him, then forces her to lie down, before threatening her with a headbutt to the face.

Got to love an argument than tries to pin the violent acts of others, on the victims.

He's always been well-built. Not his fault. He asked if he should get aggressive, explaining he'd never actually hit her and she sad "Go for it". His roleplay may have been edgy, but how do you explain him requesting her permission and her saying "go for it". Those are surely unfamiliar elements in real-life sexual assault.

[kefln]

Originally Posted by optimisticcynic

He's always been well-built. Not his fault. He asked if he should get aggressive, explaining he'd never actually hit her and she sad "Go for it". His roleplay may have been edgy, but how do you explain him requesting her permission and her saying "go for it". Those are surely unfamiliar elements in real-life sexual assault.

"Not his fault" - says it all really.

Do you know what is familiar in most cases of real life sexual assualt? The man saying that she was "asking for it", that she was dressed in a short skirt, that she was flirting with him.

But Im sure that daley, if not surrounded by cameras and security guards, would have stopped right there. Im sure the coking and headbutt montions were just for "fun".

After all, its not his fault....

[optimisticcynic]

[QUOTE=kefln;6172934]"Not his fault" - says it all really.

Do you know what is familiar in most cases of real life sexual assualt? The man saying that she was "asking for it", that she was dressed in a short skirt, that she was flirting with him.

But Im sure that daley, if not surrounded by cameras and security guards, would have stopped right there. Im sure the coking and headbutt montions were just for "fun".

After all, its not his fault....[/QUOTE"

Not his fault" referred to his size and build, but you're clearly on a mission here. You've still avoided providing any explanation as to why he sought permission and guaranteed her safety prior to the roleplay, and have launched into unrelated claims re skirt length and the like. If he didn't care and was in some sex/power-fuelled haze, why would he explain what he was going to do and check to see she'd be ok beforehand?