[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Aren't Tories politicians famous for their own deviant sexual peccadilloes? Maybe this will encourage the ragtops to start looking into mp's private lives a little more. After all, they've set themselves up here.

Should anyone's private lives be up for public scrutiny?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by arista

its a year to do it
Election gig 2014

The general election isn't till 2015.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

Aren't Tories politicians famous for their own deviant sexual peccadilloes? Maybe this will encourage the ragtops to start looking into mp's private lives a little more. After all, they've set themselves up here.

I agree with this
Let's start with Tom Watsons accusations about thatchers cabinet and work from there.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

the people who support this (mostly women) are just selfish bastards

how would you like it if something you love was taken away from you like um idk what women like

[Livia]

You know what it's like Scott... some people think they should be able to make choices for other people.

[Kizzy]

Like the government?

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Scott

the people who support this (mostly women) are just selfish bastards

how would you like it if something you love was taken away from you like um idk what women like

dick

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by arista

DVD production ( A 24Disc Production in the Studio is easy)
can go UP

Wouldn't say it's that easy. It's not just about sex. Whilst that obviously plays a major part, there is the acting involved (of course I use the word lightly) and men having to hold the positions.

The action appears seamless, but it can, just like films, take many takes to perfect a particular scene.

[Firewire]

I live at home, if my parents want pornography to be blocked (I have two young sisters), then I'm pretty much ****ed even though I'm an 18 year old boy who is legally allowed to watch legal porn (I'm not 18 yet but I will be in like 2 weeks). If I need to satisfy my needs, what am I supposed to do?

Originally Posted by Livia

Should anyone's private lives be up for public scrutiny?

If you go around ruling on what legal material is acceptable for people to view in their own time, in their own bedrooms, then make sure you close the curtains next time you're having an asphyxy wank.

Ordinarily I wouldn't agree with private lives being on the table, but when you insert yourself as a moral guardian, then I want to know what gives you that right.

[Kizzy]

Yes there is money to be made ladies, do you have an addiction? live in a developing country? Do you or your family owe a debt?......

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by Firewire

I live at home, if my parents want pornography to be blocked (I have two young sisters), then I'm pretty much ****ed even though I'm an 18 year old boy who is legally allowed to watch legal porn (I'm not 18 yet but I will be in like 2 weeks). If I need to satisfy my needs, what am I supposed to do?

I can't see there not being some sort of work around.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Ryan57

I can't see there not being some sort of work around.

There will be, but I'm just making a point.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Firewire

I live at home, if my parents want pornography to be blocked (I have two young sisters), then I'm pretty much ****ed even though I'm an 18 year old boy who is legally allowed to watch legal porn (I'm not 18 yet but I will be in like 2 weeks). If I need to satisfy my needs, what am I supposed to do?

My heart bleeds....

[Ryan57]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes there is money to be made ladies, do you have an addiction? live in a developing country? Do you or your family owe a debt?......

Sometimes it's just to make a ton of cash, then exit the industry.

Other times it can be like you say, addiction, or the unfortunate effects of abuse when they were children making them see themselves as good for just one thing.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

If you go around ruling on what legal material is acceptable for people to view in their own time, in their own bedrooms, then make sure you close the curtains next time you're having an asphyxy wank.

Ordinarily I wouldn't agree with private lives being on the table, but when you insert yourself as a moral guardian, then I want to know what gives you that right.

I don't think anything gives you that right. If you want to have an asphyxy wank every day of the week I don't have a problem with that. By the same token, if you - or I - want to view porn in the privacy of your own home, I don't have a problem with that either. Not being able to do it in case someone's kid has access to an unfiltered computer...? No, I don't hold with that at all. If you have kids, it's your responsibility.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

My heart bleeds....

You're clearly deluded.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't think anything gives you that right. If you want to have an asphyxy wank every day of the week I don't have a problem with that. By the same token, if you - or I - want to view porn in the privacy of your own home, I don't have a problem with that either. Not being able to do it in case someone's kid has access to an unfiltered computer...? No, I don't hold with that at all. If you have kids, it's your responsibility.

Agree completely.

[Kizzy]

Maybe the tories want to privatise porn?
You can make everyone homeless, force up the price of food, allow the utilities to make billions while we freeze.... but if they dare stop the porn!!!!!!....

[Lee.]

Originally Posted by Scott

the people who support this (mostly women) are just selfish bastards

how would you like it if something you love was taken away from you like um idk what women like

I'm not supporting this because I'm a woman.. I have no problem with porn at all and tbh I think most people watch it at some time.
I am supporting it because I have children and have always thought it a bit mental that kids can't go and buy hardcore pornography until they're 18 but can access it in a click of a button online

And remember, it's not being taken away from you, you just have to prove you're old enough to watch it.

And FYI, women love shoes.. Not me personally, I find them restricting and uncomfortable, but in general we love shoes

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Firewire

You're clearly deluded.

I'm deluded?....
You are an 18yr old MAN, get your own internet connection opt out and wank away if you are so bothered

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm deluded?....
You are an 18yr old MAN, get your own internet connection opt out and wank away if you are so bothered

Why should I need to do that, though?

I don't think women in porn need to be reduced to anything these days. They are powerful business women. It's just that their talents don't lie in manufacturing or business, they rely on their ability to be airtight at a moments notice.

I'm really struggling with this 1940's view of the inability of women to make decisions about their own sex lives/career for any reason that isn't about either paying a man for drugs, being ruled by a man, or men don't think they're worth anything more.

If fit women love having sex and are willing to do it on camera, then men are the victims for paying for it. I implore anyone to go and watch a stoya video and then claim she is not in control of her own career.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Lee.

I'm not supporting this because I'm a woman.. I have no problem with porn at all and tbh I think most people watch it at some time.
I am supporting it because I have children and have always thought it a bit mental that kids can't go and buy hardcore pornography until they're 18 but can access it in a click of a button online

And remember, it's not being taken away from you, you just have to prove you're old enough to watch it.

And FYI, women love shoes.. Not me personally, I find them restricting and uncomfortable, but in general we love shoes

But there are family filters on every computer and every anti-virus software. All you have to do is activate it.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Jesus.

I don't think women in porn need to be reduced to anything these days. They are powerful business women. It's just that their talents don't lie in manufacturing or business, they rely on their ability to be airtight at a moments notice.

I'm really struggling with this 1940's view of the inability of women to make decisions about their own sex lives/career for any reason that isn't about either paying a man for drugs, being ruled by a man, or men don't think they're worth anything more.

If fit women love having sex and are willing to do it on camera, then men are the victims for paying for it. I implore anyone to go and watch a stoya video and then claim she is not in control of her own career.

Exactly. Women don't do porn because they're forced to, it's because they want to.