[Marmalite]

Oh please!

If people only voted for the "most entertaining" then they wouldn't have voted off the big personalities in the first place!

Plus you seem to forget that majority of those that are actually put up for eviction are put up by their fellow housemates anyway (iow they are not chosen by public or F+F). So if, as you liked to say, they are embracing the notion (lmao) of "secret and lies" then why did they vote and continue to vote for the big personalities so their competition, once again like most other shows, dwindles to nothing?

[g.vick]

Originally Posted by Marmalite

Oh please!

If people only voted for the "most entertaining" then they wouldn't have voted off the big personalities in the first place!

Plus you seem to forget that majority of those that are actually put up for eviction are put up by their fellow housemates anyway (iow they are not chosen by public or F+F). So if, as you liked to say, they are embracing the notion (lmao) of "secret and lies" then why did they vote and continue to vote for the big personalities so their competition, once again like most other shows, dwindles to nothing?

But you are forgetting that was in a vote to evict situation. In a vote to SAVE (much like vote to win), I don't think Sally would have gone first week, I don't think Dan would have gone the week he did (in fact Sam would be out). The most entertaining characters will also be the ones with the most haters ie. Dexter, and as of the last few days, Gina, but put them in a vote to save or win situation, and the story could be very different.

[Marmalite]

Originally Posted by g.vick

But you are forgetting that was in a vote to evict situation. In a vote to SAVE (much like vote to win), I don't think Sally would have gone first week, I don't think Dan would have gone the week he did (in fact Sam would be out). The most entertaining characters will also be the ones with the most haters ie. Dexter, and as of the last few days, Gina, but put them in a vote to save or win situation, and the story could be very different.

No. You're forgetting it happens every single time so your "vote to evict" vs "vote to save" really has no bearing on the fact that the HMs always nominate out the biggest personalities first and the public then vote them out first.

[g.vick]

Originally Posted by Marmalite

No. You're forgetting it happens every single time so your "vote to evict" vs "vote to save" really has no bearing on the fact that the HMs always nominate out the biggest personalities first and the public then vote them out first.

That might happen when the housemates nominate all big characters, giving the public no choice but to evict a big character, but you cannot say that if it was vote to save, Dan would have been evicted. NOT A CHANCE.

If Hazel were somehow able to make it to the final (not a chance) she would beat Sophie, The Twins and maybe Charlie (bar the last few days) because they have done nothing to grab any positive support. But in a vote to evict situation, she has no chance in hell. If it was vote to save this week, she would have a chance of survival, because whilst there are A LOT of Hazel haters, there are also quite a few supporters who would be willing to pick up the phone and save her.

Another example, last week. Callum was evicted because he drummed up a lot of hate for his attack on Dexter, but he also gained a lot of support. Put that in a vote to save situation and The Twins would have been in a bit of strife because they did nothing all week to provoke anyone to pick up a phone and save them.