[Kaitel]

If he made sure he was staying he knew it would be at the expense of Charlie going, who he obviously has a crush on, and she'd feel betrayed that way then. But he didn't wanna go either, so he went high while still giving room in the hopes maybe each board had been different or whatever. They claim not to care about the money so why they get so upset if he had it anyway? They left Dexter with a tough choice, get evicted or force Charlie out for an even higher amount of the prize fund, so he just picked a number he had in his mind already.

[sampvt]

I cant believe that I am reading this drivel. Dexter was faced with an offer he couldn't refuse and he took it. He was clever enough to work it all out and therein lies the rub. The problem is that the fool was caught with his pants down when it backfired and he did what he has done all his life, he tried to lie his way out of it. I didn't see the 99k, was his first lie, I thought someone would take the £1 was his second then what followed was a confusing account of lucky number crap about 4,s and 8,s.

The trouble is that the small man syndrome has been with him for so long, he feels compelled to lie or cheat in everything he does. His persona is despicable and it does not matter whether he wins, looses or draws, he will never be successful in life and a vote to secure his win is a vote to promote deception for someone who has played a good game but more importantly has played the public and that is just simply wrong. IMO

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I cant believe that I am reading this drivel. Dexter was faced with an offer he couldn't refuse and he took it. He was clever enough to work it all out and therein lies the rub. The problem is that the fool was caught with his pants down when it backfired and he did what he has done all his life, he tried to lie his way out of it. I didn't see the 99k, was his first lie, I thought someone would take the £1 was his second then what followed was a confusing account of lucky number crap about 4,s and 8,s.

The trouble is that the small man syndrome has been with him for so long, he feels compelled to lie or cheat in everything he does. His persona is despicable and it does not matter whether he wins, looses or draws, he will never be successful in life and a vote to secure his win is a vote to promote deception for someone who has played a good game but more importantly has played the public and that is just simply wrong. IMO

we know he lied, the housemates know he lied....and Dexter himself knows he lied.
Don't need endless amounts of diatribe to convince ourselves. We are the lucky ones.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Even an ex gambler will know the difference between absolute certainty (pick the highest number, Charlie HAS to choose lower) and a slim probability of lucky numbers.

Not absolute certainty though is it. The housemates didnt know they all had the same board..could have been changed. Also they all thought there was a twist to what BB said. They were right.

Nothing was certain.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Not absolute certainty though is it. The housemates didnt know they all had the same board..could have been changed. Also they all thought there was a twist to what BB said. They were right.

Nothing was certain.

I think it's safe to assume that they went in one after the other leaving no time for the boards to be changed.

[sampvt]

Why didn't BB simply ask them to WRITE DOWN THE AMOUNT instead of asking them to remove the card. That way we would have seen the true answers. BB messed it up now they got what they wanted, controversy. Had someone have chosen 15k they would be out the door and the others left to fight it out, UNLESS IT WAS DEXTER WHO THEY NEED IN THE FINAL FOR PERSONAL FINACIAL GAIN ON THE VOTES.. The choosing of 88k made them change their minds once again showing they haven't got a clue how to run a show.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Why didn't BB simply ask them to WRITE DOWN THE AMOUNT instead of asking them to remove the card. That way we would have seen the true answers. BB messed it up now they got what they wanted, controversy. Had someone have chosen 15k they would be out the door and the others left to fight it out, UNLESS IT WAS DEXTER WHO THEY NEED IN THE FINAL FOR PERSONAL FINACIAL GAIN ON THE VOTES.. The choosing of 88k made them change their minds once again showing they haven't got a clue how to run a show.

Yes. I don't think it should have been made so public too. A private DR chat about it would have sufficed. Then it being made public after that. Would have seen the 'real' answers then I think

[Antibinary]

Originally Posted by sampvt

I cant believe that I am reading this drivel. Dexter was faced with an offer he couldn't refuse and he took it. He was clever enough to work it all out and therein lies the rub. The problem is that the fool was caught with his pants down when it backfired and he did what he has done all his life, he tried to lie his way out of it. I didn't see the 99k, was his first lie, I thought someone would take the £1 was his second then what followed was a confusing account of lucky number crap about 4,s and 8,s.

The trouble is that the small man syndrome has been with him for so long, he feels compelled to lie or cheat in everything he does. His persona is despicable and it does not matter whether he wins, looses or draws, he will never be successful in life and a vote to secure his win is a vote to promote deception for someone who has played a good game but more importantly has played the public and that is just simply wrong. IMO

Except the only thing he mentioned as a strategy in the price room was 4s and 8s. Again if you weren't looking for other numbers other than 4s and 8s then it is feasible you wouldn't see other numbers as an option as they wouldn't enter into it. I think mentioning the £1 thing was mostly calling the other housemates out as being just as greedy if not more so, than him.

[Vanessa]

Dexter to win?

[Jimrod]

Dexter would be a pretty terrible gambler if he based his strategies on "4's and 8's", it's all bull - he absolutely saw all the numbers on that board and everyone here knows it.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Dexter to win?

No.

[johnx]

Im backing Dexter on this-88 grand was a high amount.If he'd have chosen 40-like he was mulling over-then he wouldnt have had much credibility. Sam is acting like a sanctimonious pillock over this.If he's not worried about the money why does he care about someone trying to trouser some of it?

Why didnt Charlie pick crafty 5 or 10 grand.Shes going anyway and no one would have begruded her a nice little parting gift.Would have saved her for tonight as it turned out.

[jet]

Originally Posted by smudgie

we know he lied, the housemates know he lied....and Dexter himself knows he lied.
Don't need endless amounts of diatribe to convince ourselves. We are the lucky ones.

Very very WELL SAID. I do feel very lucky indeed to be on the side of common sense
That's why I'm not bothering to post about it any more.

[Winkie Expand]

Great thread, jet!

[Issac]

Darth Vader & the DarkSide has always been the best!

[kate2013]

I enjoyed watching it. If Dexter really wanted the money he'd have gone for a lower amount, why not 50,000? He still took a risk, but Dex is a gambler he would of enjoyed it. Fairplay Id rather walk out the house with 88,000 than stay for the final. Id have 88,000 and like Liam in previous year who would be the most remembered?
So why did Charlie care about going last if it hadnt crossed her mind? If she only cared about staying in wouldnt she choose third so she could pick the third highest? She rock, paper scissored to go fourth when she was in there she was saying Dexter would chose the third highest so by wanting fourth she thought she'd have the lowest. Charlie and the Twins are con men to by that rule, their just more sneaky.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by jet

Dexter has been caught out as a con man, which is no surprise really. It is as clear as day that Dexter wanted to take the money and run. I was able to see and assimilate all the numbers on the board quickly and I wasn't even in the room. They each had plenty of time to choose.
As each HM came into the room one by one, the amount they had chosen disappeared from the board. Sam chose 100k - it was blacked out. The twins would have seen the 100k was gone and they chose 96 something K. Which means they also were trying for the money if the 2 to come after them went higher. The amount they took was then blanked out. With me so far?

Dexter came next and although there was still 99k left, and 4 or 5 other amounts in the 90k range, he chose 88k. Now, if he had really wanted to stay, why didn't he chose the highest number still available? He said he didn't see the 99k, which of course he waffled around, but what about the other numbers in the 90k range? Didn't he see ANY of them?
Then he changes his story and says he thought someone would take a £1. Immediately you can see he regrets digging an even deeper hole for himself.

When the amounts are revealed, he acts as if he is upset. Then when BB says, 'However, Dexter will not receive the money' his eyes dart about in a panic. A few moments pass and he says' thank god'. Why would he say that if he thought he was going to be leaving with nothing? BB hadn't told him he was safe yet. Didn't he say he wanted to stay?

Then comes the relief when he finds out he is safe from eviction and the tears were a genuine reaction to that and not because he had to pick a HM to evict.

As soon as heard what the twist was basically about I knew he would do something sly & underhand.

Great post btw jet

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by jet

There were clearly many amounts in the 90k range. All he had to do was look for 100k - gone. 99k - not gone. 98k - not gone, 96plus k gone (the twins pick) etc. It's that easy. The rest knew how to do it, and Dexter isn't stupid.
He gave 3 different explanations as to why he didn't pick 99k - 1st to Charlie, 2nd to Sam and 3rd to Charlie again.

He has said he gambles. He gambled here and there is not much difference between winning £100K and being given £88K. Remember we heard about his panic when he thought Hazel had been given the money. BB did not show us that diary room convo. I wonder why?

He wants the money and if people want to vote for him to gamble the money away then that is their choice. He claims he would have given some of the money to Sam's causes. When has a housemate who said that ever kept their promise apart from Craig.

[boomoo]

Originally Posted by johnx

Im backing Dexter on this-88 grand was a high amount.If he'd have chosen 40-like he was mulling over-then he wouldnt have had much credibility. Sam is acting like a sanctimonious pillock over this.If he's not worried about the money why does he care about someone trying to trouser some of it?

Why didnt Charlie pick crafty 5 or 10 grand.Shes going anyway and no one would have begruded her a nice little parting gift.Would have saved her for tonight as it turned out.

If anyone other than Dexter had chosen the lowest figure BB would have changed their plan.
They knew that forums on here were asking fans of Gina to vote Dexter out so he could have been out today.
This stunt kept him in to the final.
They want Sam out today hence the splash of anti Sam in the Daily Star.
It is just BB playing the viewers and getting their choice of winner this year either Gina or Dexter.

[kate2013]

Maybe Charlie did think she was picking the lowest figure why play rock paper scissors to go last in the room? She said herself she assumed they'd all pick the highest amounts to stay, if that was the case at 99,000 she would of picked the lowest amount.People are missing this. Charlie would have happily left the house with 99,0000 and she knew she'd probably go in the eviction after last weeks audience reaction.. And this was possible there were obscure numbers. Everyones baiting Dexter, but the twins were greedier and tactical and so was Charlie.

[Tozzie]

Originally Posted by AEC

I'D LIKE DEXTER TO WIN BIG BROTHER!

Dexter did say at the end of the latest show:"You can't do right for doing wrong in this house".

1.No one has mentioned,at least in the posts that I have read and seen,that when Dexter was trying to choose what amount of money to go for,he said ALOUD that wanted to pick an amount that represented good luck and increased his chances of staying in the house - hence he picked £88,800.

2.And since Dexter is partly of Chinese descent,he chose £88,800 for the following reasons:-
WIKIPEDIA:-In Chinese culture[edit source]

Further information: numbers in Chinese culture

Number 88 symbolizes fortune and good luck in Chinese culture, since the word 8 sounds similar to the word Fā (发, which implies 发财, or wealth, in Mandarin or Cantonese). The number 8 is considered to be the luckiest number in Chinese culture, and prices in Chinese supermarkets often contain many 8s. The shape of the Chinese character for 8 (八) implies that a person will have a great, wide future as the character starts narrow and gets wider toward the bottom. The Chinese government has been auctioning auto license plates containing many 8s for tens of thousands of dollars.

__________________________________________________ _______________

2.With respect,Sam,although he is probably a nice guy more or less,is also crude at times and is currently behaving like a pillock towards Dexter,because he is jealous to death of Dexter being in the final.Plus the fact that he was fed anti-Dexter propaganda by that other pillock,his best friend in the BB house,Callum! Again,Callum is also probably a nice guy,but he was being overly-nice in Big Brother and came across as a creep.

3.The twins,Jack and Joe,are also jealous to death of Dexter,because Dexter is clever,smart,charismatic - and he's in the Big Brother final!.......provided that Big Brother doesn't change the plan with another twist and/or lie.......
Dexter did say in the latest programme that he is not 100% sure IF HE IS IN the Big Brother Final! Whats more,Jack and Joe asked Big Brother twice would they actually be getting the amount of money that they picked.

4.I've said it before,and I'll say it again,Dexter is a bit of a conman,but he is also a likeable rogue and probably a decent guy at heart,who is trying to better himself - people like Robin Hood,Ronnie Biggs,etc,are thought of as heroes and likeable rogues.It must be stressed that Dexter is not a criminal,he just using Big Brother to further his life for the better,he's a game player - many other housemates are too - all is fair in love and war,and Big Brother is a game show as well as a social experiment.And Sam probably is also a game player,who wants to win Big Brother and the £100,000 prize money!

5.Dexter has been the most interesting housemate in the Big Brother house,and he deserves to win the Big Brother show-programme!

AEC.

great post!

[KingPrawn]

Originally Posted by lippyzippy

this Is simple. pick the highest number to ensure you stay. if hed picked the highest he WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE STAYED. but he didn't because hes a liar

So why didn't the Twins do that then?

[KingPrawn]

Originally Posted by jet

Dexter has been caught out as a con man, which is no surprise really. It is as clear as day that Dexter wanted to take the money and run. I was able to see and assimilate all the numbers on the board quickly and I wasn't even in the room. They each had plenty of time to choose.
As each HM came into the room one by one, the amount they had chosen disappeared from the board. Sam chose 100k - it was blacked out. The twins would have seen the 100k was gone and they chose 96 something K. Which means they also were trying for the money if the 2 to come after them went higher. The amount they took was then blanked out. With me so far?

Dexter came next and although there was still 99k left, and 4 or 5 other amounts in the 90k range, he chose 88k. Now, if he had really wanted to stay, why didn't he chose the highest number still available? He said he didn't see the 99k, which of course he waffled around, but what about the other numbers in the 90k range? Didn't he see ANY of them?
Then he changes his story and says he thought someone would take a £1. Immediately you can see he regrets digging an even deeper hole for himself.

When the amounts are revealed, he acts as if he is upset. Then when BB says, 'However, Dexter will not receive the money' his eyes dart about in a panic. A few moments pass and he says' thank god'. Why would he say that if he thought he was going to be leaving with nothing? BB hadn't told him he was safe yet. Didn't he say he wanted to stay?

Then comes the relief when he finds out he is safe from eviction and the tears were a genuine reaction to that and not because he had to pick a HM to evict.

Load of rubbish!

Why did BB put up the figure of £88,800. Because they knew that the Number 8 has significance for Dexter because that number is seen as being very lucky in Chinese culture.

Maybe you should be asking why the Twins did not pick the £99,000? Why did one of the Twins ask BB in the room whether they would definitely be going home with the money? Why one of the Twins has confirmed that he would like to take the money and run?

[Marmalite]

Originally Posted by AEC

I'D LIKE DEXTER TO WIN BIG BROTHER!

Dexter did say at the end of the latest show:"You can't do right for doing wrong in this house".

1.No one has mentioned,at least in the posts that I have read and seen,that when Dexter was trying to choose what amount of money to go for,he said ALOUD that wanted to pick an amount that represented good luck and increased his chances of staying in the house - hence he picked £88,800.

2.And since Dexter is partly of Chinese descent,he chose £88,800 for the following reasons:-
WIKIPEDIA:-In Chinese culture[edit source]

Further information: numbers in Chinese culture

Number 88 symbolizes fortune and good luck in Chinese culture, since the word 8 sounds similar to the word Fā (发, which implies 发财, or wealth, in Mandarin or Cantonese). The number 8 is considered to be the luckiest number in Chinese culture, and prices in Chinese supermarkets often contain many 8s. The shape of the Chinese character for 8 (八) implies that a person will have a great, wide future as the character starts narrow and gets wider toward the bottom. The Chinese government has been auctioning auto license plates containing many 8s for tens of thousands of dollars.

__________________________________________________ _______________

2.With respect,Sam,although he is probably a nice guy more or less,is also crude at times and is currently behaving like a pillock towards Dexter,because he is jealous to death of Dexter being in the final.Plus the fact that he was fed anti-Dexter propaganda by that other pillock,his best friend in the BB house,Callum! Again,Callum is also probably a nice guy,but he was being overly-nice in Big Brother and came across as a creep.

3.The twins,Jack and Joe,are also jealous to death of Dexter,because Dexter is clever,smart,charismatic - and he's in the Big Brother final!.......provided that Big Brother doesn't change the plan with another twist and/or lie.......
Dexter did say in the latest programme that he is not 100% sure IF HE IS IN the Big Brother Final! Whats more,Jack and Joe asked Big Brother twice would they actually be getting the amount of money that they picked.

4.I've said it before,and I'll say it again,Dexter is a bit of a conman,but he is also a likeable rogue and probably a decent guy at heart,who is trying to better himself - people like Robin Hood,Ronnie Biggs,etc,are thought of as heroes and likeable rogues.It must be stressed that Dexter is not a criminal,he just using Big Brother to further his life for the better,he's a game player - many other housemates are too - all is fair in love and war,and Big Brother is a game show as well as a social experiment.And Sam probably is also a game player,who wants to win Big Brother and the £100,000 prize money!

5.Dexter has been the most interesting housemate in the Big Brother house,and he deserves to win the Big Brother show-programme!

AEC.

Dexter is not "partly Chinese".

His biological father was from Singapore. His parents divorced when he was 8 and he was brought up in the UK.

I very much doubt whether he can speak or understand Malay or Chinese (Mandarin) which are two of the languages spoken there.

[Slevin]

i just caught up on the last few eps myself.

Dex was lying his ass off about the 99K not seeing it. i can see why he would lie if it was like BBUS with a twist but not BBUK with the publice voting. if he would of been a boss with some balls he would of just owned up to taking it. i thought he could possibly be considered a legend for BBUK but the last sad weeks and this really takes him off that imo. still one of the best HM of the series but was a gutless wimp. Sam got him shook whenever he they talked about it. even Charlie who i dont like knew it. i do think the twins tried to make off with the money since they could of went for a couple numbers higher and i think they were banking on Charlie & Dexter to take the two above it. no one calls em out but i can see why the focus was on Dex. he got caught and he was pissed and moaned in the DR. each time he tried to defend he came off looking worse and worse.