[CaudleHalbard]

He said something which might have offended a viewer or viewers.

BB is ultra sensitive after the Shilpa Shetty farrago.

I would have been amazed if Ron had not got a warning.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by reece(:

So your memory depends on where you're located.. give me a break.

Yes it does. He was in a stressful environment unfamiliar to him - a known cause and effect scenario. Memory can be very much affected by stress.

[Verbal]

You can't win on this site its just wearing. It should be called what-can-we-be-offended-about-today.com

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

Yes it does. He was in a stressful environment unfamiliar to him - a known cause and effect scenario. Memory can be very much affected by stress.

He wasn't stressed whatsoever, he's been calm and collected the whole time..

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by CaudleHalbard

He said something which might have offended a viewer or viewers.

BB is ultra sensitive after the Shilpa Shetty farrago.

I would have been amazed if Ron had not got a warning.

..also because they gave Carol a warning yesterday for relating something but saying the word..(even though they said it themselves...that part was wrong..)...I actually still don't think Ron is a racist as such, I think he's more of an idiot but the joke was racist and the warning was completely justified ...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

Yes it does. He was in a stressful environment unfamiliar to him - a known cause and effect scenario. Memory can be very much affected by stress.

...so is it that he's old..his environment..stress of the BB house..?...I actually don't think he is racist as such but the joke was and I he hasn't disputed it..?...he was very silly, people can still like him, it doesn't make him a bad person or take away from anything positive in him but he did make a racist joke and that can't be denied...

[sassysocks]

[QUOTE=reece(:;6331577]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

Age has NOTHING to do with it, just grasping at straws trying to think of liable excuses.

If you say so, but you clearly have no understanding of such things. Enjoy your little coccoon - one day you will understand.

[reece(:]

[QUOTE=sassysocks;6331686]

Originally Posted by reece(:

If you say so, but you clearly have no understanding of such things. Enjoy your little coccoon - one day you will understand.

Keep making silly excuses up

[erinp5]

I found it a very strange and stupid response to someone covering their head .

[Verbal]

Whilst i'm at it I would like to point out how the pathetic attitude on here and how infractions are dealt out are ridiculous.

I've just been infracted for this post:

Quote:
"Yea cos thats the same isnt it? Honestly. People on here could cause an argument in an airing cupboard.

Getting offended on behalf of other people is offensive in itself. You're all just cheapening the real issues so that you can use big words and get all haughty over something on the internet. "

Now, if someone was to call someone a dirty n****r they would receive the same warning.

Do you not see the problem with this?

Ban me, I don't ****ing care anymore. This place is an absolute joke.

[Ammi]

[QUOTE=sassysocks;6331686]

Originally Posted by reece(:

If you say so, but you clearly have no understanding of such things. Enjoy your little coccoon - one day you will understand.

..tbh I think it's Ron that needs to understand otherwise he's obviously keeping on saying these stupid things which aren't helping him at all..

[megamaja40]

Jeez are they for real?..... Why not give charlotte a warning about the crude stuff she's saying?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

Yes it does. He was in a stressful environment unfamiliar to him - a known cause and effect scenario. Memory can be very much affected by stress.

Yeah, I get stressed when I'm surrounded by people I don't know. So my mind works fine but strangely forgets that homophobia is offensive and I start hurling abuse at gay people. It's not my fault, I forgot.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by megamaja40

Jeez are they for real?..... Why not give charlotte a warning about the crude stuff she's saying?

Because racism is a totally different, more serious subject to crudeness.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by Videostar

Don't be silly...theres a huge difference between not being PC and being a racist.

Big Ron just isn't PC.

That's like the club comedians who warn the audience that the next joke is going to be 'a bit blue' and then tell a p*ki joke. Hilarious. All in good humour, bit naughty, not for the kiddies, but only having a laugh. No harm done. Nothing meant by it.

Except there is harm done. It all adds to the general anti-muslim noise in our society.

And maybe some 'ordinary muslims' might laugh and take no offence. Some others might laugh along and not show they're stung by it. Because it's all just banter right?

It's all banter 'til some ****wit petrol bombs a mosque, or spraypaints 'Al Qaeda' on a muslim family's front door. It's all banter til members of your community are getting stopped and searched on a semi-regular basis because they look a bit suspicious in this climate of Islamaphobia.

Does it make him a bad man? No. Does it warrant some kind of censure? Absolutely.

And I do wish people would stop wheeling out the age thing. He's quick thinking enough to come up with snappy comments and one liners. It is rather unfortunate that some of his humour seems founded in racial stereotypes.

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...so is it that he's old..his environment..stress of the BB house..?...I actually don't think he is racist as such but the joke was and I he hasn't disputed it..?...he was very silly, people can still like him, it doesn't make him a bad person or take away from anything positive in him but he did make a racist joke and that can't be denied...

Both. He said himself - that once it was pointed out to him, he could see their point, but at the time it hadn't occurred to him.

And that was likely to be partly because of the attitudes he grew up with typical of his generation and partly to do with not being able to think quickly enough about every word he says before saying it.

[Dionkan]

Couldn't believe they gave him a warning for it.
Channel 5 are losing the plot.
And no in not a racist

[sassysocks]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Because racism is a totally different, more serious subject to crudeness.

But the judgements made about her because of it is sexism which is just as serious as racism - but I don't see people get hot under the collar about that.

[DanaC]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

But the judgements made about her because of it is sexism which is just as serious as racism - but I don't see people get hot under the collar about that.

There are quite a few people getting 'hot under the collar' about that. Just not in this thread.

It is possible to be bothered about both at the same time.

[Jamie.]

I was gob smacked when he said it. It was racist no matter what way you look at it, it stereotyped Muslims (or religions that wear head scarves) to be a terrorist.

It was definitely justified.

[reece(:]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

But the judgements made about her because of it is sexism which is just as serious as racism - but I don't see people get hot under the collar about that.

I'm waiting for another age card.... Ron old and innocent, Charlotte young and guilty etc. You can never win around here.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by megamaja40

Jeez are they for real?..... Why not give charlotte a warning about the crude stuff she's saying?

You think being crude is the same as offensively stereotyping muslims?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

Both. He said himself - that once it was pointed out to him, he could see their point, but at the time it hadn't occurred to him.

And that was likely to be partly because of the attitudes he grew up with typical of his generation and partly to do with not being able to think quickly enough about every word he says before saying it.

..I definitely believe he doesn't think about what he's saying but that doesn't mean that he didn't deserve a warning for it or that we should just say, awww, no worries, he's just a bit old, BB shouldn't give him a warning..there are lots of older people, most older people who don't make any reference to race.... he's not in that era now, he's perfectly able to function successfully in this era in every other way..except that he doesn't think enough about what he says...

[Verbal]

PC brigade, prepare to have a breakdown

Youtube video

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by DanaC

That's like the club comedians who warn the audience that the next joke is going to be 'a bit blue' and then tell a p*ki joke. Hilarious. All in good humour, bit naughty, not for the kiddies, but only having a laugh. No harm done. Nothing meant by it.

Except there is harm done. It all adds to the general anti-muslim noise in our society.

And maybe some 'ordinary muslims' might laugh and take no offence. Some others might laugh along and not show they're stung by it. Because it's all just banter right?

It's all banter 'til some ****wit petrol bombs a mosque, or spraypaints 'Al Qaeda' on a muslim family's front door. It's all banter til members of your community are getting stopped and searched on a semi-regular basis because they look a bit suspicious in this climate of Islamaphobia.

Does it make him a bad man? No. Does it warrant some kind of censure? Absolutely.

And I do wish people would stop wheeling out the age thing. He's quick thinking enough to come up with snappy comments and one liners. It is rather unfortunate that some of his humour seems founded in racial stereotypes.

Well said!