[BBfanUSA]

I think Islamist Extremists are doing this to lure the world into a trap or Rebels are to drag in the US. I mean I think it's a bit odd that this is brought up this late into the war. Why would Assad do this when he's overwhelmingly winning? All he would be doing with Chemical Weapons is adding fuel to the rebel's fire

Also Russia's moved warships into the Mediterranean sea

[arista]

Originally Posted by BBfanUSA

I think Islamist Extremists are doing this to lure the world into a trap or Rebels are to drag in the US. I mean I think it's a bit odd that this is brought up this late into the war. Why would Assad do this when he's overwhelmingly winning? All he would be doing with Chemical Weapons is adding fuel to the rebel's fire

Also Russia's moved warships into the Mediterranean sea

Yes it will look dumb if later we find out
it was Rebals trapping USA in this fight.


And the Russia warship should be there
as they have much Military gear in Syria.


The President gave a interview on USA PBS newshour,
he seems to be slowing down on his action.
Of course, he can change his mind at any moment
and go down in History like GW Bush.

[arista]

Brits say no to war in Syria

[BRITS are against missile strikes on Syria
by a big majority of two to one,
the first poll on the new crisis has found.
An exclusive YouGov survey for The Sun has revealed
there is still strong opposition to all types of UK involvement
in the bitter two year long civil war despite
last week's chemical weapons atrocity.]

[Nemo123]

Let me say, I'm delighted with 90% of the replies to the question. It gives me hope for the future.

[Nemo123]

I saw something very interesting on the net. It was a recording of Bradley Manning's testimony. He went to his superiors to report an abuse in the electoral system. HIS army was identifying political opponents to the Iraqi police. These legitimate opponents were subsequently arrested, tortured, and killed. He was told to shut up and ignore it. The Irqias who were extra-judiciously killed were just political opponents, not terrorists. Yet Bradley was told to shut up.

[Nemo123]

There is a hidden of Badley Manning's testimony on the net. I could look for it, but I heard it only yesterday. It's pretty conclusive in what it says.
I'll summarise. The US secret service identified political opponents to the government, and passed their name on to the Iraqi govt., who the arrested them, jailed them and probably tortured them They were just political opponents in a "New" Iraq.

[Nemo123]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

I think Obama will refrain from starting any non UN authorised military action in Syria as the possible unforseen consequences could ignite the whole of the middle East and the effect on the already somewhat shaky markets could make the crash of 2008 look like a walk in the park.

The fragile US economy is in my opinion unable to sustain funding for another war this time on a larger scale coupled with the negative effects on the markets

Also the fallout from this with relations with Russia and China could also be extremely worrying.

No I think Obama may deliver angry press soundbites but will wait until all UN inspections have finished before going back to the UN for any further resolutions.

No stomach for a fight especially one which has the potential to develop into a Global Conflict.....IMHO !!!!!!

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[arista]

In Parliament

No 285
Yes 272
Maj 13



They voted No to the War.

[arista]

[Nemo123]

Is America the real enemy of the world, just as the Nazis were in the 1930's?

[joeysteele]

Really glad this all took place today and with the results of the votes too, it has ended up a good time for democracy and in particular the UK Parliament too.

[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Really glad this all took place today and with the results of the votes too, it has ended up a good time for democracy and in particular the UK Parliament too.

Yes we do not want a Another War


America can go in Alone

[Nedusa]

Really sad to hear Paddy Ashdown (former Lib Dem leader) say he felt saddened that the UK had voted not to start a War with Syria, he felt sorry that our Armed forces were not going to fire off dozens of Cruise Missiles which would almost certainly have caused more deaths of innocent Syrians, he felt sad that the UK was not going to eventually commit more of our young Soldiers/Seamen/Airmen to early graves.

Are these the words of a sensible well informed Political thinker or the rantings of a rather sad deluded, washed up, ex-politician............You decide !!!!!

[BBfanUSA]

I'm watching the news over here. I'm shocked the president has opted not to do it. Because if he does the senate will be a republican majority by 2014, and have a republican (Hopefully a financial one, not a go by the bible one) in the white house by 2016. There was some Democratic Representative from NY telling CNN and the NBC Today show that he would vote yes to declare war on Syria.

Also there's video evidence of a Napalm attack.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-23892594

[Josy]

There isn't enough evidence of who done it though ^^^

I'm glad the UK voted no but Cameron said he will keep calling for a robust response, despite losing the vote last night.

[Tom4784]

I'm glad we aren't taking military action, it would be the wrong thing to do especially since it hasn't been proven that Assad is responsible for the chemical attacks. We can do more for Syria by not turning it into even more of a war zone.

[Josy]

[arista]

Originally Posted by BBfanUSA

I'm watching the news over here. I'm shocked the president has opted not to do it. Because if he does the senate will be a republican majority by 2014, and have a republican (Hopefully a financial one, not a go by the bible one) in the white house by 2016. There was some Democratic Representative from NY telling CNN and the NBC Today show that he would vote yes to declare war on Syria.

Also there's video evidence of a Napalm attack.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-23892594

The US President is still going for attack
but not fast

[arista]

Originally Posted by Josy

Yes a Great Front Page


Shown on ITVNewsHD

[arista]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm glad we aren't taking military action, it would be the wrong thing to do especially since it hasn't been proven that Assad is responsible for the chemical attacks. We can do more for Syria by not turning it into even more of a war zone.

Yes thats the Americans job

[BBfanUSA]

I meant hasn't opted to do it Sorry

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Really sad to hear Paddy Ashdown (former Lib Dem leader) say he felt saddened that the UK had voted not to start a War with Syria, he felt sorry that our Armed forces were not going to fire off dozens of Cruise Missiles which would almost certainly have caused more deaths of innocent Syrians, he felt sad that the UK was not going to eventually commit more of our young Soldiers/Seamen/Airmen to early graves.

Are these the words of a sensible well informed Political thinker or the rantings of a rather sad deluded, washed up, ex-politician............You decide !!!!!

The latter for me Nedusa.

[arista]

Originally Posted by BBfanUSA

I meant hasn't opted to do it Sorry

Yes he has to Fit it in this Weekend
as he goes off to meet Putin and other leaders soon.

"Last time any British PM was defeated
over issue of war and peace was in 1782"

Germany has confirmed they are not going into this attack.

The French are with America - so long as they get all the UN data first.

[arista]

The USA President has confirmed he will attack.


On all News media

[arista]