[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

If we just banned people for making comments that we didnt particularly like, there would b about 3 members left on here.

A comment about a celebrities nose is not, and never will be, against the rules on this site.

My point is that a case could very easily be made for such comments to fall under the umbrella of cyber bullying, which I assume is against the rules ? if its not, it should be.

I am not saying ban everybody who does this, quite the opposite. I have said that these comments should be publicly pointed out for being wrong, clearly and calmly explaining why. As I have done.

If moderators are not online guardians, what exactly are you there for? Genuine question.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Verbal

If moderators are not online guardians, what exactly are you there for? Genuine question.

We're here to moderate, the clue is in the name.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

We're here to moderate, the clue is in the name.

Indeed, maybe you should look up the definition

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Verbal

Indeed, maybe you should look up the definition

Maybe if you have an issue you should try doing something useful about it instead of just taking potshots at the mods. Also stop trying to hold us to a standard that you yourself aren't willing to adhere to.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Maybe if you have an issue you should try doing something useful about it instead of just taking potshots at the mods. Also stop trying to hold us to a standard that you yourself aren't willing to adhere to.

What are you referring to exactly?

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Verbal

What are you referring to exactly?

You've received tons of infractions relating to insulting other members and generally being unpleasant towards them and now you're trying to act like an anti-bullying saint. The truth of the matter is that you don't care about any of this, you just want a new stick to try and beat the mods with.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You've received tons of infractions relating to insulting other members and generally being unpleasant towards them and now you're trying to act like an anti-bullying saint. The truth of the matter is that you don't care about any of this, you just want a new stick to try and beat the mods with.

I have NEVER insulted anyone, as some on here will tell you I have a sarcastic sense of humour, which some get and some don't. I certainly have never ever made an issue of anyones appearance.


You want me to list the infractions i've received on here, justifying every single one of the points I was infracted for?

Cos I will

Try again dezzy.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Verbal

My point is that a case could very easily be made for such comments to fall under the umbrella of cyber bullying, which I assume is against the rules ? if its not, it should be.

I am not saying ban everybody who does this, quite the opposite. I have said that these comments should be publicly pointed out for being wrong, clearly and calmly explaining why. As I have done.

If moderators are not online guardians, what exactly are you there for? Genuine question.

Bullying other members is against the rules. Commenting on a celebrities appearance doesn't constitute cyber bullying IMO. At all.

If it did, and all negative comments about celebs/BB contestants/etc came under this umbrella of cyber bullying..most members would be banned more often than not. I don't recall you having problems with people making negative comments before?

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Bullying other members is against the rules. Commenting on a celebrities appearance doesn't constitute cyber bullying IMO. At all.

If it did, and all negative comments about celebs/BB contestants/etc came under this umbrella of cyber bullying..most members would be banned more often than not. I don't recall you having problems with people making negative comments before?

You can quite easily make negative comments about a persons actions, if they do something that is wrong. Pointing out and making fun of a persons personal appearance whether they are a celeb or not can have wide reaching implications. You need to look at the bigger picture.

For the sake of argument, say there is a 14 year old girl who is going throug school and being picked on and ridiculed for her nose every day at school, she sees Rebecca on TV and starts to see her as a role model. Only to then see her being ridiculed.

Wouldnt it be better for this site to be seen as a place that stops this ?

You don't recall me making an issue of people making fun of others for their personal appearance?

Take a look back through the Sam threads from the last big brother, when people were taking digs at him for being deaf.

I will defend these things to the death, you can ban, infract, ridicule and belittle me all you like. I've heard it all and its like water off a ducks back.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Verbal

You can quite easily make negative comments about a persons actions, if they do something that is wrong. Pointing out and making fun of a persons personal appearance whether they are a celeb or not can have wide reaching implications. You need to look at the bigger picture.

For the sake of argument, say there is a 14 year old girl who is going throug school and being picked on and ridiculed for her nose every day at school, she sees Rebecca on TV and starts to see her as a role model. Only to then see her being ridiculed.

Wouldnt it be better for this site to be seen as a place that stops this ?

You don't recall me making an issue of people making fun of others for their personal appearance?

Take a look back through the Sam threads from the last big brother, when people were taking digs at him for being deaf.

I will defend these things to the death, you can ban, infract, ridicule and belittle me all you like. I've heard it all and its like water off a ducks back.

OK this is just paranoid waffle really. I havent done any of those things?

Yes I saw you defend Sam. However, I took that to be because you supported him rather than anything else (and also I think defending someone against deaf jibes is quite a bit different to someone saying someone else has a big nose), much as I think this is the issue now. Its fine for people to say what they like about people you dislike. I may be wrong of course, and no doubt will be told that I am now.

If we deleted/banned.whatever every comment about appearance, we would have no members left really. Where does it end? A kid might have been bullied and called stupid, does this mean that whenever someone says someone else is stupid that should be removed?

The rules have been the same for years. OTT abuse is against the rules(eg. if iceman had said she has a big nose and I hope someone breaks it and kills her) but petty little comments about appearance, while being annoying, are not against the rules.

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

OK this is just paranoid waffle really. I havent done any of those things?

Yes I saw you defend Sam. However, I took that to be because you supported him rather than anything else (and also I think defending someone against deaf jibes is quite a bit different to someone saying someone else has a big nose), much as I think this is the issue now. Its fine for people to say what they like about people you dislike. I may be wrong of course, and no doubt will be told that I am now.

If we deleted/banned.whatever every comment about appearance, we would have no members left really. Where does it end? A kid might have been bullied and called stupid, does this mean that whenever someone says someone else is stupid that should be removed?

The rules have been the same for years. OTT abuse is against the rules(eg. if iceman had said she has a big nose and I hope someone breaks it and kills her) but petty little comments about appearance, while being annoying, are not against the rules.

Its being against picking on people for things that these people cannot help, and are things that plague them on a daily basis. These type of comments just perpetuate the bullying.

I'm officially done with this thread now. My point is made. Its just going round in circles.