Here's what confuses me - if I don't like anything that's on my TV screen then I'll switch over, so why people can't just opt out and let others get on with things is absurd. I've opted out of all future versions of this, and I won't be signing up to the offsite website to watch or comment (so if anyone signs up as me - ban them).

I actually think that if everyone who has opted out, just stays away from it, then trust the people taking part to not throw s**t your way, then I'm 99% sure, that you'll have a fun, and a fm self-policed version of it, which means James will probably be more likely to reconsider next time it comes around.

Personally, I think this having to happen offsite is a bad sign for TIBB in general, and I hope James reconsiders, but I bet he wishes he'd shrunk his own inbox to 400 messages right about now!

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by The Baby Jesus

Here's what confuses me - if I don't like anything that's on my TV screen then I'll switch over, so why people can't just opt out and let others get on with things is absurd. I've opted out of all future versions of this, and I won't be signing up to the offsite website to watch or comment (so if anyone signs up as me - ban them).

I actually think that if everyone who has opted out, just stays away from it, then trust the people taking part to not throw s**t your way, then I'm 99% sure, that you'll have a fun, and a fm self-policed version of it, which means James will probably be more likely to reconsider next time it comes around.

Personally, I think this having to happen offsite is a bad sign for TIBB in general, and I hope James reconsiders, but I bet he wishes he'd shrunk his own inbox to 400 messages right about now!

This is what frustrates me. If you want no part of it, stay away.

[Holly Christmas]

Originally Posted by The Baby Jesus

Here's what confuses me - if I don't like anything that's on my TV screen then I'll switch over, so why people can't just opt out and let others get on with things is absurd. I've opted out of all future versions of this, and I won't be signing up to the offsite website to watch or comment (so if anyone signs up as me - ban them).

I actually think that if everyone who has opted out, just stays away from it, then trust the people taking part to not throw s**t your way, then I'm 99% sure, that you'll have a fun, and a fm self-policed version of it, which means James will probably be more likely to reconsider next time it comes around.

Personally, I think this having to happen offsite is a bad sign for TIBB in general, and I hope James reconsiders, but I bet he wishes he'd shrunk his own inbox to 400 messages right about now!

Fair enough post, but that's not how it would be.

1 it's already touted as no holds barred? How can any Mod who takes part condone that when it's a forum break. Saying it's offsite isn't a get out because it's a Tibb event!

2 trust people not to say bad stuff!! You're having a giraffe surely.

[Verbal]

If its so innocent and nobody that doesnt want to take part is ever mentioned, then why is the 'standby' forum a locked board that you have to be permitted access to?

[Holly Christmas]

Originally Posted by Good King Glennceslas

This is what frustrates me. If you want no part of it, stay away.

Yeah, and we won't get savaged at all will we now

[Verbal]

*infiltrated*

[Good King Glennceslas]

If it was going ahead on TiBB you would opt out and that's that. If you didn't strive for it to be cancelled on TiBB we could of had it on here and you wouldn't of been mentioned at all.

Originally Posted by Lola-Belle Humbug

Fair enough post, but that's not how it would be.

1 it's already touted as no holds barred? How can any Mod who takes part condone that when it's a forum break. Saying it's offsite isn't a get out because it's a Tibb event!

2 trust people not to say bad stuff!! You're having a giraffe surely.

1) I think you have to trust people to have a no holds barred event between the people participating, and if everyone who doesn't opt out is happy to go along with that, then what business is it of mine?

2) Yeah, why not? It's already been banned from TIBB, so I don't think people will have any reason to act like idiots, because they'll want it back here. I think it's right to give them the benefit of the doubt. If anything is said that's out of order then everyone will know about it anyway, so people will still be punished.

[Kyle]

Is it happening then? I want them to hurry up before all these weird Christmas threads start coming on and stealing all the awards.....

[Kizzy]

Kate, please don't talk about it on the thread anymore. It's just going to cause more negative drama which will no doubt reflect badly on us. I'll message admin.

[Good King Glennceslas]

It's best to leave it now.

Lily has her numbers. Yes we want a Razzies. It's going to happen regardless of anyone's protests.

[Holly Christmas]

Jesus - there won't be an Opt out situation. That's my point. And yes I agree with you that if it causes crap it may well result in punishments which is why I said on their own heads be it. Sigh.

Kizzy - I know. It's like talking to a brick wall. For me, James has stated it's not to take place. That means anywhere surely!

[Holly Christmas]

Originally Posted by Good King Glennceslas

It's best to leave it now.

Lily has her numbers. Yes we want a Razzies. It's going to happen regardless of anyone's protests.

Really? Well that's just spiffing. Shame the site owner is opposed. That's disrespectful. Two fingers to the admin. Nice.

[Livia]

It seems to me that people are objecting because of what they think may happen. Most people I'm sure are going to treat it light-heartedly. Sadly if it's hounded off the forum, then it will be bad for TiBB... but if a few people objecting and insisting it's cancelled the catalyst for it actually being cancelled, then the majority will go elsewhere.

[Smithy]

Originally Posted by Lola-Belle Humbug

Really? Well that's just spiffing. Shame the site owner is opposed. That's disrespectful. Two fingers to the admin. Nice.

The site owner doesn't give a ****

James is just an admin

[Holly Christmas]

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by Lola-Belle Humbug

Really? Well that's just spiffing. Shame the site owner is opposed. That's disrespectful. Two fingers to the admin. Nice.

James is admin, not the site owner. I'm sure James doesn't give a toss. If it's happening offsite then James has very little to do with it. It won't affect him in any way.

Originally Posted by Lola-Belle Humbug

Jesus - there won't be an Opt out situation. That's my point.

And yes I agree with you that if it causes crap it may well result in punishments which is why I said on their own heads be it. Sigh.

Are you saying that you don't believe people will be allowed to opt out? Or people will just ignore the opt rules, and just say what they want regardless?

That's the same in any game. Ben has odds for the "first person banned in ML" for a reason, even if it is mostly tongue in cheek.

[Livia]

There won't be an opt out if it goes off site. But you can't say to people, you can't hold your game here... and we insist you don't hold it anywhere else either.

That is pretty moody then. Unfortunately, I have no authority to police the internet, and nor do I want to. Let them get on with it.

[Livia]

Well I'm saying there won't be an opt out if it's offsite... I'm assuming there won't be. Anyhoo, if it goes ahead on here, there's an opt out and it's moderated, surely that's the fairest way?

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Livia

Well I'm saying there won't be an opt out if it's offsite... I'm assuming there won't be. Anyhoo, if it goes ahead on here, there's an opt out and it's moderated, surely that's the fairest way?

I don't think there's a better way than that. There is no fool proof method and every thread/game has the potential to go sour anyway. I think it should go ahead off site if it can't on here.

Matt I know you're reading this thread - can you comment on the opt out list, and whether you intend for there to be one? Cheers.

Well yeah, the fairest way would and should be to have it on here, but James has already made a decision and it's public. Whatever will give him the quietest life is the path he'll choose.

[Jake.]

Why are people honestly afraid that they are going to be constantly bitched about if they aren't taking part? The whole point is to laugh at the funny nominations, laugh at who wins, generally have a good night with those who want to involve themselves, not those who don't? But anyway, yeah I'm up for this.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Lola-Belle Humbug

if people think doing it offsite with no moderation (so it'll be vicious) and an almost definite outcome of members coming back here and talking about who said what about who isn't going to cause **** then they are silly.

Originally Posted by Lola-Belle Humbug

Remember how disgusted you were by the recent offensive blog cos doing this offsite is inviting a re run of that. The host has already stated it'll be no holds barred.

Originally Posted by Lola-Belle Humbug

trust people not to say bad stuff!! You're having a giraffe surely.

Must say I find your position on this laughable given that you started your own forum that members of TiBB signed up to - on which you had a rolling discussion of the last Razzies ceremony.

Here's one screenshot that was posted during said ceremony (of which I have a copy saved):



"little does he know the laughs we have at them, LOL, LOL"

*cough*hypocrisy*cough*