[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by swinearefine

Let's debunk some of those side effects, shall we...


It certainly can in some people, mostly if they are already experiencing those feelings or are in a negative or frightening environment. Like I said I use it both recreationally but also medicinally as an anxiolytic, and the only times I ever experienced increased anxiety were minimal and fleeting and only happened when I first started smoking. EVERYONE I know uses it to calm them down, aside from one friend with anxiety who I mentioned who says it slightly worsens their anxiety but they smoke it anyway because it doesn't deter from the enjoyable effects. Everyone's different, and if it's not enjoyable to you, don't smoke it, but I've come across very few people who would object to a nice blunt.



This was actually just recently debunked! Check out this link:http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/12...nia/63148.html



People with higher IQs are actually more prone to drug use. My friend was actually a straight-A student who was like ranked #8 in our class when she was expelled for possession and from personal experience I consistently achieve perfect/near-perfect results on standardized tests and consider myself highly intelligent.


If you have heart problems you definitely shouldn't be smoking anything, but there are a number of ways to consume marijuana. As for the weed itself causing heart problems, there is debate and conflicting reports, but like I said earlier, if you're afraid it will harm your heart, do your research and make a judgement call. It of course raises heart rate but not to danger levels.



Like I said, so many benefits.



Smoking anything when you're pregnant can lower birth weight. Try vaporizing or edibles instead, or just not having kids bc wtf there are enough as it is, adopt if you must.

-Signed the Marijuana lobby omg

you can argue that Marijuana can be good for you all you like, but the fact is it's still going to make some people really ill and I think there's enough things that do that already

[Stu]

Originally Posted by MarysBoyChild

you can argue that Marijuana can be good for you all you like, but the fact is it's still going to make some people really ill and I think there's enough things that do that already

Likewise you can copy and paste school journal arguments all you like but it's not exactly a game changer. The benefits of legalization far outweigh the comparatively thin side effects that a very small percentage of users may or may not face.

[swinearefine]

Originally Posted by MarysBoyChild

you can argue that Marijuana can be good for you all you like, but the fact is it's still going to make some people really ill and I think there's enough things that do that already

lmao no it's not. You can be ignorant to the facts all you want, but it's you who is missing out. What makes me really ill is the constant dissemination of prohibition dreck such as this.

EDIT: bee tee dubz thanks for such a well-thought out and thorough answer!

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by MarysBoyChild

you can argue that Marijuana can be good for you all you like, but the fact is it's still going to make some people really ill and I think there's enough things that do that already

It's great for you swinearefine that smoking weed has such a great impact on your life, however that's not everyone's experience from it, and it is a dangerous drug.

[swinearefine]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

It's great for you swinearefine that smoking weed has such a great impact on your life, however that's not everyone's experience from it, and it is a dangerous drug.

Did I not say that it's not for everyone? And omfg at it being a dangerous drug, are we living in the same world? Perhaps I have some more life experiences, because I know plenty about dangerous drugs and weed is not one of them. Genuinely cannot believe so many people have such antiquated views on this.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by swinearefine

Did I not say that it's not for everyone? And omfg at it being a dangerous drug, are we living in the same world? Perhaps I have some more life experiences, because I know plenty about dangerous drugs and weed is not one of them. Genuinely cannot believe so many people have such antiquated views on this.

Antiquated? Well how about we legalise everything like it was in the stone age, that would really be progress.

And fair enough if you don't think a substance that can cause psychotic episodes dangerous, I think that's naive on your behalf, or you are only trying to see only the good about your drug of choice. Just because there are more dangerous drugs out there, it doesn't make this one safe.

I've no problem with substances that can do us harm being put in a box marked illegal, that way the people who don't want to get high can avoid them and get on with living in society instead of escaping from it.

Also how great would the world be if marijuana was legal everywhere and people smoked it all the time? I'm not sure doctors, dentists or police would be that efficient. The likes of the midwives, fire fighters or teachers wouldn't been too good at their jobs either. So this dope smoking utopia is fine for the dope smokers, but what about the rest of society?

Sure it's a handy way to get some much needed tax revenue, but it's going to create more problems in the future.

[swinearefine]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

Antiquated? Well how about we legalise everything like it was in the stone age, that would really be progress.

And fair enough if you don't think a substance that can cause psychotic episodes dangerous, I think that's naive on your behalf, or you are only trying to see only the good about your drug of choice. Just because there are more dangerous drugs out there, it doesn't make this one safe.

I've no problem with substances that can do us harm being put in a box marked illegal, that way the people who don't want to get high can avoid them and get on with living in society instead of escaping from it.

Also how great would the world be if marijuana was legal everywhere and people smoked it all the time? I'm not sure doctors, dentists or police would be that efficient. The likes of the midwives, fire fighters or teachers wouldn't been too good at their jobs either. So this dope smoking utopia is fine for the dope smokers, but what about the rest of society?

Sure it's a handy way to get some much needed tax revenue, but it's going to create more problems in the future.

Since when did you and my grandmother get to talking about the devil's lettuce? There is so much wrong with this post, I don't know where to begin - must be because I'm too damn high to function

First off, I totally agree with legalizing everything, and actually giving people a proper education about drugs, their dangers, their benefits, and allowing them to make informed decisions and purchase their products in stores which generate tax revenue and help to reduce the violence and deaths caused by the ludicrous war on drugs.

I don't know where you're getting your information about marijuana causing psychotic episodes, but as I linked to earlier, it has been recently debunked that marijuana causes schizophrenia. Sure, it can cause anxiety in some, but for the overwhelming majority it calms them down and improves their mood. For the few who find the drug to cause them to go into psychotic episodes - of whom I have met none and heard of none, and trust me when I say that I have met more smokers ranging from first time casual 14-year-olds to lifetime stoners - don't use it then? Like I said, it's vital for people to be properly informed about the chemistry and effects of drugs in schools instead of being filled with a load of bull**** propaganda. Actually by propagating this myth of weed as a dangerous substance it only leads people, especially kids hearing it in school, to ridicule all drug education and not realize that some of it is quite valid such as when it comes to the dangers of hard drugs.

And um, people do smoke it all the time. Yes, your doctor, teacher, dentist, etc quite possibly does smoke the ganja! And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, as long as they are sober when they are performing tasks that require them to be such.

The world wouldn't be a dope utopia if everyone smoked because... most of the world does smoke? And it's absolutely absurd to say that it would cause problems because legalization (both of weed and hard drugs) would actually take power away from drug cartels, provide safety standards for both weed and hard drugs, and ultimately protect users, curb addiction, lower the incarceration rate, and provide a boon to the economy.

I would continue but it seems minds are just too closed to realize what is so obvious, but the bottom line is that by spreading misinformation about marijuana you are helping to destroy society and that is very sickening to me.

[GypsyGoth]

Originally Posted by swinearefine

Since when did you and my grandmother get to talking about the devil's lettuce? There is so much wrong with this post, I don't know where to begin - must be because I'm too damn high to function

First off, I totally agree with legalizing everything, and actually giving people a proper education about drugs, their dangers, their benefits, and allowing them to make informed decisions and purchase their products in stores which generate tax revenue and help to reduce the violence and deaths caused by the ludicrous war on drugs.

I don't know where you're getting your information about marijuana causing psychotic episodes, but as I linked to earlier, it has been recently debunked that marijuana causes schizophrenia. Sure, it can cause anxiety in some, but for the overwhelming majority it calms them down and improves their mood. For the few who find the drug to cause them to go into psychotic episodes - of whom I have met none and heard of none, and trust me when I say that I have met more smokers ranging from first time casual 14-year-olds to lifetime stoners - don't use it then? Like I said, it's vital for people to be properly informed about the chemistry and effects of drugs in schools instead of being filled with a load of bull**** propaganda. Actually by propagating this myth of weed as a dangerous substance it only leads people, especially kids hearing it in school, to ridicule all drug education and not realize that some of it is quite valid such as when it comes to the dangers of hard drugs.

And um, people do smoke it all the time. Yes, your doctor, teacher, dentist, etc quite possibly does smoke the ganja! And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, as long as they are sober when they are performing tasks that require them to be such.

The world wouldn't be a dope utopia if everyone smoked because... most of the world does smoke? And it's absolutely absurd to say that it would cause problems because legalization (both of weed and hard drugs) would actually take power away from drug cartels, provide safety standards for both weed and hard drugs, and ultimately protect users, curb addiction, lower the incarceration rate, and provide a boon to the economy.

I would continue but it seems minds are just too closed to realize what is so obvious, but the bottom line is that by spreading misinformation about marijuana you are helping to destroy society and that is very sickening to me.

You mentioned your life experience earlier, meaning it should give your points of view extra value, well perhaps you should treat your grandmother's words the same way, it seems to me like she's pretty wise.

You also mentioned that I'm the one here who has a closed mind, well I beg to differ, I looked and the evidence plus my personal experience before forming my opinion on this subject. It seems to me that you're so gung ho about legalising this, you've ignored any evident that shows your drug in a bad light. I feel if you take off the weed tinted glasses and look at the subject again, you may come to a different conclusion, rather than just looking for evidence that supports your point of view, try look at it freshly from both sides.

Lastly the idea you have about most of the world is smoking marijuana, is wrong, I believe dope smokers, pot heads, stoners are a tiny minority.