[Nedusa]

This kid isn't going to be mixed up or confused as to his/her sexuality at all. Hopefully the presence of genitals may help this child decide what gender he/she is..

I wish parents like this would stop experimenting with their children for their own personal ends. This child could be permanently emotionally damaged due this ridiculous PC nonsense

Whatever next...???

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

This kid isn't going to be mixed up or confused as to his/her sexuality at all. Hopefully the presence of genitals may help this child decide what gender he/she is..

I wish parents like this would stop experimenting with their children for their own personal ends. This child could be permanently emotionally damaged due this ridiculous PC nonsense

Whatever next...???

what evidence do you have for your conclusions? or are you just reacting based on stereotypes?

There are plenty of emotionally damaged people who grew up being forced to play with certain toys and forced to wear certain clothes, so how is it any different?

I think the parents saying to the child that what toys you play with and what clothes you wear are NOT important is a much better message to teach a child than the parents who force a child to only play with certain toys or wear certain clothes based on a bigoted society's norms.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by lostalex

what evidence do you have for your conclusions? or are you just reacting based on stereotypes?

There are plenty of emotionally damaged people who grew up being forced to play with certain toys and forced to wear certain clothes, so how is it any different?

I think the parents saying to the child that what toys you play with and what clothes you wear are NOT important is a much better message to teach a child than the parents who force a child to only play with certain toys or wear certain clothes based on a bigoted society's norms.

what evidence do you have to support your belief that "traditional parenting" turns people into murderers and rapists, if you look into the backgrounds of some serial killers it is sometimes the case that their upbringing has been far from traditional! so bang goes that theory. There are good and bad people in the world, some bad parents will end up turning out fantastic adults and some good parents will have offspring who turn out to be evil bastards.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Cherie

what evidence do you have to support your belief that "traditional parenting" turns people into murderers and rapists, if you look into the backgrounds of some serial killers it is sometimes the case that their upbringing has been far from traditional! so bang goes that theory. There are good and bad people in the world, some bad parents will end up turning out fantastic adults and some good parents will have offspring who turn out to be evil bastards.

i never claimed to have evidence, that's why all i said was, it can't be any worse than what parents do now...

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by lostalex

what evidence do you have for your conclusions? or are you just reacting based on stereotypes?

There are plenty of emotionally damaged people who grew up being forced to play with certain toys and forced to wear certain clothes, so how is it any different?

I think the parents saying to the child that what toys you play with and what clothes you wear are NOT important is a much better message to teach a child than the parents who force a child to only play with certain toys or wear certain clothes based on a bigoted society's norms.

Oh please...... Gender identity is important to a child , it was a thousand years ago and still will be in a thousand years time.

If he is a boy then please do not try and treat him like a girl and vice versa...

We have no right to mess with children's heads like this.. It is thoughtless and irresponsible....

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Oh please...... Gender identity is important to a child , it was a thousand years ago and still will be in a thousand years time.

If he is a boy then please do not try and treat him like a girl and vice versa...

We have no right to mess with children's heads like this.. It is thoughtless and irresponsible....

but boys and girls, especially at the ages BEFORE puberty, have no differences. it is all influence. And don't you think it can be damaging to teach boys that they SHOULD be aggressive and violent. Telling boys that being aggressive is part of being a boy, and if you are not aggressive you aren't a "real man".... You don't see how that can be damaging? really?

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by lostalex

but boys and girls, especially at the ages BEFORE puberty, have no differences. it is all influence. And don't you think it can be damaging to teach boys that they SHOULD be aggressive and violent. Telling boys that being aggressive is part of being a boy, and if you are not aggressive you aren't a "real man".... You don't see how that can be damaging? really?

Who is teaching their male children to be aggressive and violent? Were you raised in a gladiator arena or something?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Kyle

Who is teaching their male children to be aggressive and violent? Were you raised in a gladiator arena or something?

i don't have the time to explain that if you don't understand, you obviously have no cultural awareness of the pressure placed on boys.

[Holly Christmas]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i don't have the time to explain that if you don't understand, you obviously have no cultural awareness of the pressure placed on boys.

Bit patronising?

My view, these parents are actively fostering confusion in this child. It'd be all well and good that if your child showed signs of WANTING to dress in clothes usually worn by the other sex/play with toys that differed from gender stereotypes etc THEN you let them exercise that right. But not actively introduce it and promote it. I find it quite odd.

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by lostalex

i don't have the time to explain that if you don't understand, you obviously have no cultural awareness of the pressure placed on boys.

Because there wasn't one. Since birth till this very day I have not had one item of clothing, toy or piece of advice from my father that suggested to me I should disrespect women, rape them and beat them and assault people for no other reason than to assert some sort of primal superiority.

If a boy is brought up with any of those impressions in his mind it's most likely down to negligible parenting.

Good parents are good parents, and bad parents are bad parents. I applaud the attitude of the parents, because they are obviously looking at this as a way to teach tolerance and understanding to their infant. However, raising your child as gender neutral will probably have no impact on this, but the love, teaching and boundaries they set up for him will.

They could dress him in nothing but military fatigues up until his teenage years, but teach him the right from wrong, and he'll be equally well rounded.