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Loukas you say you were instructed to create the brochure, but this was a team effort. If you could see things were struggling why did you not step in and correct them or are you happy to pass the blame to one of your team mates?


To you all, who was the one in charge here or leading this task or were you all just scrambling around trying to make things work?
I would say we didn't really have a project manager, but I would also argue that I stepped up as a leader throughout the task
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I did bring this up constantly if you remember, from the start I suggested 4 European countries that weren't as popular (Slovenia, Slovakia, Serbia and Malta)

I also made it clear that I did not agree with the brazil or Australia ideas and I felt the whole lodges and activity centre ideas werent what we were tasked with, so I do feel like the other two were the two wasting time.

I tried to curb this idea, but I kept being told that it was a good idea :/
if you look back i mentioned i didn't read the brief properly the first time around and banished the idea of Australia instantly, fair enough i mentioned Brazil and New Zealand but who's idea did we go with in the end. If you felt it was a really bad idea you should have really stood up and said Loukas that's a bad idea.
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Like all the other tasks you contributed in <3
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Contributed like you did with the previous tasks you mean?
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Poth, do you not feel you were under prepared for the pitch? This was a destination you were trying to sell to me, do you not feel you could have had a huge variety of information to hammer home why this place was the next best thing?

Jake, do you feel that the first night you cost the team valuable time while you were online by not throwing down any ideas even if they were weak that maybe one of your team mates could have developed upon later on?
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if you look back i mentioned i didn't read the brief properly the first time around and banished the idea of Australia instantly, fair enough i mentioned Brazil and New Zealand but who's idea did we go with in the end. If you felt it was a really bad idea you should have really stood up and said Loukas that's a bad idea.
I'll let you off

Your idea of Gdansk was very good though and I've said that
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Poth, do you not feel you were under prepared for the pitch? This was a destination you were trying to sell to me, do you not feel you could have had a huge variety of information to hammer home why this place was the next best thing?

Jake, do you feel that the first night you cost the team valuable time while you were online by not throwing down any ideas even if they were weak that maybe one of your team mates could have developed upon later on?
I did throw ideas down, so no time was wasted because neither of my team mates would have read them until they logged on
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Loukas you say you were instructed to create the brochure, but this was a team effort. If you could see things were struggling why did you not step in and correct them or are you happy to pass the blame to one of your team mates?


To you all, who was the one in charge here or leading this task or were you all just scrambling around trying to make things work?
i knew it was a team effort, it's a total team effort that how a strong business works. That's why i said the other candidates could and should produce something visual too and Jake did. Me and Jake mentioned loads of places that make Gdansk unique (restaurants ect) and none of those places were mentioned in our final pitch.

I say we all had equal say and we scrambled around trying to make things work.
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I'd also like to point out that a load of research myself/Loukas did didn't seem to be included..
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Jake, do you feel that the first night you cost the team valuable time while you were online by not throwing down any ideas even if they were weak that maybe one of your team mates could have developed upon later on?
I do not feel that I was under prepared at all, I prepared for this pitch for most of the day and I felt that I did a very good pitch.

I think personally maybe I could have done a tad more research about other parts then the ones we advertised, but I think that's a very very very minor thing as I felt I sold Gdansk very well.
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Poth, why was this research of Jake and Loukas not included, are you trying to sabotage their efforts?


Jake and Loukas, what key research that was posted in this thread do you feel was omitted in the pitch?
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Well I didn't see either of you trying to step up, I felt that I moved us along at various points and steered us in the right direction.
That's because I wasn't going to try and steer a team when i knew that i wouldn't be 100% active.
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Jake and Loukas, what key research that was posted in this thread do you fell was omitted in the pitch?
We compiled posts of restaurants, clubs, well known places etc
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Jake and Loukas, what key research that was posted in this thread do you feel was omitted in the pitch?
Let me state this now, I would never ever ever sabotage anyone's work, I think that's totally immoral and is not fair at all.

I did ask for any work to be submitted to me so that I could compile it as earlier when organising the pitch my iPad was extremely slow, I don't know whether this was for everyone on TiBB, but it's hard to multitask on an iPad.

Before the point is made about why I didn't start the pitch ealier, I was busy the entire of yesterday, the day before by the time we had a place chosen it was bedtime and today Ive had this party to organise on top of other things, plus during this week I've had to deal with some personal issues, I know I shouldn't be making 'excuses' but considering all these points I think I have done as well as humanly possible with what I had.
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That's because I wasn't going to try and steer a team when i knew that i wouldn't be 100% active.
I knew I wasn't going to be 100% active, but I still tried to steer the team so that it wouldn't fall apart when I wasn't there, without me steering the team I don't think we would have got anywhere.
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Jake and Loukas, what key research that was posted in this thread do you feel was omitted in the pitch?
I listed a number of things straight away as i mentioned Gdansk. Including Słowiński National Park with it's movable dunes and Bory Tucholskie National Park as well nine landscape parks and a few dozens of nature reserves. Then mentioned it's amazing zoo, unique boat trips, picturesque evening strolls and A number of pubs and restaurants.
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