[Z]

Originally Posted by arista

its a HIM
he has a cock
you know

I think of it like an actor/actress playing a role. You wouldn't call Jim Carrey "Truman" but if you were watching the Truman Show you wouldn't call him "Jim" while he's playing the character of Truman. It's a man with a beard in a dress, yes, but while wearing that dress he's playing a female character called Conchita.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

Behave you,you naughty person

[Loukas]

Originally Posted by Z

I think of it like an actor/actress playing a role. You wouldn't call Jim Carrey "Truman" but if you were watching the Truman Show you wouldn't call him "Jim" while he's playing the character of Truman. It's a man with a beard in a dress, yes, but while wearing that dress he's playing a female character called Conchita.

EXACTLY.

[Z]

I don't really get how people find it so difficult to comprehend, my mum kept referring to Conchita as a "freak" and fair enough if you don't like the performance, but I thought it was a statement more than anything and I thought it was quite an effective gimmick at that. It was very poignant and powerful that a drag queen with a beard can win the approval of Europe and really shows that, although there is a long way to go in terms of equal rights and wide acceptance, as a whole Europe has come along so far in recent years.

[Marsh.]

But she didn't really win the approval.

She was a novelty/gimmick that people got a laugh from and either thought "Ooh, a bloke in a dress" or "A chick with a beard".

Has nothing to do with acceptance or approval IMO.

Eurovision doesn't really represent Europe anymore than Big Brother represents the UK population.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Z

I think of it like an actor/actress playing a role. You wouldn't call Jim Carrey "Truman" but if you were watching the Truman Show you wouldn't call him "Jim" while he's playing the character of Truman. It's a man with a beard in a dress, yes, but while wearing that dress he's playing a female character called Conchita.

But on CH5HD News
they showed Tom the singer
before this event



This was a Political Snub on King Putin



its Bollocks

[Braden]

Originally Posted by 08marsh

But she didn't really win the approval.

She was a novelty/gimmick that people got a laugh from and either thought "Ooh, a bloke in a dress" or "A chick with a beard".

Has nothing to do with acceptance or approval IMO.

Eurovision doesn't really represent Europe anymore than Big Brother represents the UK population.

So why would countries that are so vehemently anti-LGBT vote for an act, which is clearly a representative for not only Austria but the LGBT community?

[Shaun]

when is everyone going to just accept it was an excellent song & performance?

[Black Dagger]

Originally Posted by Shaun

when is everyone going to just accept it was an excellent song & performance?

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[Black Dagger]

And 'King Putin' ffs, the guy is a ****ing kuhnt. His oxygen being cut off would be a good thing.

[Tregard]

That'll show her, guys.

They should cut their dicks off while they're at it, seeing as that's no longer manly either.

[Kizzy]

It was a rubbishy song, it was just a gimmick the beard .. I don't call myself steve everytime my arse cleavage is hanging out do I?

[Ryan57]

[Samm]

Vile, it's only a game show ffs

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It was a rubbishy song, it was just a gimmick the beard .. I don't call myself steve everytime my arse cleavage is hanging out do I?

[Pete.]

pressed russians

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Shaun

when is everyone going to just accept it was an excellent song & performance?

quite

the dress bit and beard were side issues. It was all about the song and the passion from my sofa