[GiRTh]

Joey Barton is much more of a man of the people than Farage. He may have no place on Question time but his point is a good one.

Morgan is also right. Ukip have no policies and to vote for them is little more than a protest vote. Their only policies are the obviously bigoted ones they find so hard to defend without crying 'Witch hunt'. It actually disgust me that Ukip are being taken seriously at all..

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Joey Barton is much more of a man of the people than Farage. He may have no place on Question time but his point is a good one.

Morgan is also right. Ukip have no policies and to vote for them is little more than a protest vote. Their only policies are the obviously bigoted ones they find so hard to defend without crying 'Witch hunt'. It actually disgust me that Ukip are being taken seriously at all..

I can see why people are attracted to them with the help of the media unfortunately but I agree with all you say above.
I feel sad that by going to the extreme of the 2 policies they go on and on about,that has so far overridden the sinister and dark elements as to their other policies as they are being made.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I can see why people are attracted to them with the help of the media unfortunately but I agree with all you say above.
I feel sad that by going to the extreme of the 2 policies they go on and on about,that has so far overriden the sinister and dark elements as to their other policies as they are being made.

Ukip are very much like the far religious right in USa. They will always have a voice and they will always have some support but when we drill down into what they really truly stand for there are no where near enough like minded people for them to be any kind of serious political force. The sooner Ukip are discredited the sooner we can get on to serious talk about next years election.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Ukip are very much like the far religious right in USa. They will always have a voice and they will always have some support but when we drill down into what they really truly stand for there are no where near enough like minded people for them to be any kind of serious political force. The sooner Ukip are discredited the sooner we can get on to serious talk about next years election.

I agree again Girth, for me really serious issues that need the attention in the 2015 election could I feel get lost in the media circus around UKIP.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I agree again Girth, for me really serious issues that need the attention in the 2015 election could I feel get lost in the media circus around UKIP.

This is, as always, completely the point of course. Loud noises in the media to keep people's heads turned away from the things they should be looking at. Much bigger forces at work, here.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Joey Barton is much more of a man of the people than Farage. He may have no place on Question time but his point is a good one.

Morgan is also right. Ukip have no policies and to vote for them is little more than a protest vote. Their only policies are the obviously bigoted ones they find so hard to defend without crying 'Witch hunt'. It actually disgust me that Ukip are being taken seriously at all..

"Joey Barton is much more of a man of the people than Farage."

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"Joey Barton is much more of a man of the people than Farage."

Whats funny? Do you really think Farage is a man who can speak for the average man in the street? Now that's laughable.

In fact any footballer on 100k plus a week is still more in touch with the average man than Farage.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Whats funny? Do you really think Farage is a man who can speak for the average man in the street? Now that's laughable.

In fact any footballer on 100k plus a week is still more in touch with the average man than Farage.

over 5 million people just voted for farage

what numbers have you got for barton?

15,000 at QPR?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

over 5 million people just voted for farage

what numbers have you got for barton?

15,000 at QPR?

Did they vote for Farage or did they like his policy of blaming others for their inadequacies?

He's a nice easy option for some people but he aint no voice of the people.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Did they vote for Farage or did they like his policy of blaming others for their inadequacies?

They voted for a likeable skilful politician who understands the real concerns of people.

but that wont fit your left wing idealistic fairytale worldview so dont fight it

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

They voted for a likeable skilful politician who understands the real concerns of people.

but that wont fit your left wing idealistic fairytale worldview so dont fight it

Likeable? That alone is debatable.

Real concerns? Dont make me laugh. He enables the public to blame others for their shortcomings..