[Josy]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

They are doing it because there are less females they won't let males have power ,I don't see the problem this is just being dragged and dragged they can do whatever they want

Being dragged and dragged, it's a discussion Sam there is no one forcing you to take part.

[Firewire]

Sexism towards men doesn't exist

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Josy

Being dragged and dragged, it's a discussion Sam there is no one forcing you to take part.

k

[Gerbil901]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Sexism towards men doesn't exist

It's sexism on both sides of the spectrum man or woman. That's like saying that racism towards white people doesn't exist. It doesn't get the same attention but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That statement in itself is sexist. Unless (and I hope) you are joking???

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Gerbil901

It's sexism on both sides of the spectrum man or woman. That's like saying that racism towards white people doesn't exist. It doesn't get the same attention but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That statement in itself is sexist. Unless (and I hope) you are joking???

Oh my god, is this for real?

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Josy

Being dragged and dragged, it's a discussion Sam there is no one forcing you to take part.

oh and one more thing the house being majority under 30s every single year is discrimination too, think your just saying all of this because you like the boys in the house

[Gerbil901]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Oh my god, is this for real?

There is sexism towards both men and women. That's a fact. Unless there's some kind of joke I'm not getting here......

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Gerbil901

There is sexism towards both men and women. That's a fact. Unless there's some kind of joke I'm not getting here......

Men are higher paid, higher respected and perceived as the superior sex. Women still are not equal when it comes to pretty much anything. Until women are on the same level as men, come back and call me sexist then.

Also, please don't ever suggest that racism towards white people is real. Once white people have been slaves, segregated in every aspects of society and were killed for their skin colour, come back and tell me racism towards white people is real.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Gerbil901

It's sexism on both sides of the spectrum man or woman. That's like saying that racism towards white people doesn't exist. It doesn't get the same attention but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. That statement in itself is sexist. Unless (and I hope) you are joking???

Any ism (sexism/racism/etc) is a combination of prejudice and power so yeah men can't be the victims of sexism

[smeagol]

its a slap in the face to every bb fan. and evrybody who has voted .
no way i will ever vote on bb again while they continue to treat the public like twats

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Any ism (sexism/racism/etc) is a combination of prejudice and power so yeah men can't be the victims of sexism

[jyunga]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

I think it is. It clearly shows the producers have favouritism towards the females over males. s

All Big Brothers try to create a diverse cast so that different groups within the public can find someone they enjoy watching. If you suddenly have all the women getting kicked outta the house you're going to lose dynamics that would entice people to watch the show and lose viewers. If more girls keep going they are going to end up with only one option; adding more females into the house (which would probably be more interesting in the long run anyways: P)

[Gerbil901]

Originally Posted by Firewire

Men are higher paid, higher respected and perceived as the superior sex. Women still are not equal when it comes to pretty much anything. Until women are on the same level as men, come back and call me sexist then.

Also, please don't ever suggest that racism towards white people is real. Once white people have been slaves, segregated in every aspects of society and were killed for their skin colour, come back and tell me racism towards white people is real.

This is the most ignorant post I have ever read. You can have your opinion and that's fine. I won't deny that it's a male dominated world. But here's something that you fail to realize "It's only ruled by a FEW men". If anything most men's lives aren't any better than women's.

[Firewire]

Originally Posted by Gerbil901

This is the most ignorant post I have ever read. You can have your opinion and that's fine. I won't deny that it's a male dominated world. But here's something that you fail to realize "It's only ruled by a FEW men". If anything most men's lives aren't any better than women's.

What the ****? Women have literally no power. Men make up most CEOs in business and leaders of the world (presidents/prime ministers). Women can't even take their tops off on the beach or breast feed their baby in public whilst men can walk around shirtless and wolf-whistle at women, and look to women as sexual objects. Men do not endure the same hardship as women. At all.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

oh and one more thing the house being majority under 30s every single year is discrimination too, think your just saying all of this because you like the boys in the house

This is to do with the twist we had last night, feel free to make a thread about anything else you think is discrimination.

And its fantastic that you have decided who in the house I like when I haven't even decided myself and made a thread saying as much

[MeMyselfAndI]

I actually can't at people saying this is sexism

It's simple, there are almost double as many boys than girls, it's just evening out the numbers, It'd be same if there were way more girls... [There just NEVER is]

[flamingGalah!]

Originally Posted by Firewire

What the ****? Women have literally no power. Men make up most CEOs in business and leaders of the world (presidents/prime ministers). Women can't even take their tops off on the beach or breast feed their baby in public whilst men can walk around shirtless and wolf-whistle at women, and look to women as sexual objects. Men do not endure the same hardship as women. At all.

Erm, I'm pretty sure they can & do... And plenty of women objectify men too, so yeah... Men don't get periods, but lets not pretend that men get it any easier than women...

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by MeMyselfAndI

I actually can't at people saying this is sexism

It's simple, there are almost double as many boys than girls, it's just evening out the numbers, It'd be same if there were way more girls... [There just NEVER is]

It IS sexism though.

You can say its sexism but justified. You can say its sexism but its to even things out. But there is no getting away from it being sexism, as its making a decision based purely on gender

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

It IS sexism though.

You can say its sexism but justified. You can say its sexism but its to even things out. But there is no getting away from it being sexism, as its making a decision based purely on gender

Good point, I agree with all that Vicky.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by troynuncdicit

Any ism (sexism/racism/etc) is a combination of prejudice and power so yeah men can't be the victims of sexism

you're thinking of institutional rac/sexism.

it's entirely possible to be an individual sexist or racist. there'd literally be no other word if some black dude who decided to keep saying "whites are disgusting" or w/e.

[newsbb]

best twist so fat tbh

[mrflibble]

At first I didn't like it because I thought it was unfair. If the male housemates are better than the female housemates and the females are getting voted out then maybe there's a reason. BUT, since the theme is power trip and the nominations have been unfair every week, this kind of thing does fit in.

[Ammi]

..it's possibly sexism and maybe to even out the sexes but that would still be sexism because people haven't voted housemates out because of their sex, they're voted them out because they like them the least regardless..I don't think we can say sexism definitely though until we know if the guys will get some similar power later on....

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by ~Sam~

It's not all about the public, the housemates should make the big decision it makes it a lot less predictable

Well actually it IS all about the public!!!
It's a TV show that's entire purpose is to provide viewing material and entertainment for the viewing public.
The housemates already get their chance to make a big decision which is who they choose to nominate each week so to make half of them immune from being nominated to fix it so that only certain housemates stand a chance of
being evicted is just plain ridiculous, as ridiculous as Helen being given a free pass in the first place.
What's the point of Big Brother if it's not "Who goes...You Decide" ? That the whole premise of the show!

The producers interfering with the original format and rules of Big Brother is destroying the show and it's just getting worse every year the more they meddle with it. They need to take it back to how it used to be. That era of BB was superior in every way, got better viewing figures and was just far more enjoyable to watch overall. The 'tasks' are a joke these days and are pretty much pointless! They used to have some amazing tasks that provided great footage for the highlight's shows but the tasks these days barely take up a couple of minutes of the shows and usually consist of people's confidences being betrayed purely to start arguments to give them footage of housemates bitching, sniping and fighting! That used to happen naturally anyway but it was real and not manufactured and constant like it is now.

I really can't see BB being watchable for much longer if they continue down the path they're on with it sadly!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Well actually it IS all about the public!!!
It's a TV show that's entire purpose is to provide viewing material and entertainment for the viewing public.
The housemates already get their chance to make a big decision which is who they choose to nominate each week so to make half of them immune from being nominated to fix it so that only certain housemates stand a chance of
being evicted is just plain ridiculous, as ridiculous as Helen being given a free pass in the first place.
What's the point of Big Brother if it's not "Who goes...You Decide" ? That the whole premise of the show!

The producers interfering with the original format and rules of Big Brother is destroying the show and it's just getting worse every year the more they meddle with it. They need to take it back to how it used to be. That era of BB was superior in every way, got better viewing figures and was just far more enjoyable to watch overall. The 'tasks' are a joke these days and are pretty much pointless! They used to have some amazing tasks that provided great footage for the highlight's shows but the tasks these days barely take up a couple of minutes of the shows and usually consist of people's confidences being betrayed purely to start arguments to give them footage of housemates bitching, sniping and fighting! That used to happen naturally anyway but it was real and not manufactured and constant like it is now.

I really can't see BB being watchable for much longer if they continue down the path they're on with it sadly!

..really good post JTM...I think with the last bit..?..I've always thought, yeah it's ok if this is how they want it/like a different 'hero/villian' type BB which is edited to lead the public and manipulate their thoughts ..but I would rather it be called something different/change in other ways so that we can judge it differently and not always compare it to the old style, which we naturally do...