[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I guess it's never a big deal if you are a fan...hypocritical. If It had been Ashleigh it would have been a different story to you few Helen fans.

Now ,now,it's not quantity that counts it's quality Ashleighs done her fair share of bitching and scheming, and still is,so she's no different.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Now ,now,it's not quantity that counts it's quality Ashleighs done her fair share of bitching and scheming, and still is,so she's no different.

Do you really, in your heart, believe that there is no difference between Helen and Ashleigh Kazanne?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by jet

Do you really, in your heart, believe that there is no difference between Helen and Ashleigh Kazanne?

Oh yes they are different in how they go about things,Helen is gung ho,gobby and potty mouthed,but Ashleigh for me is much worse as she is devious,sly and whispers ,both bitch,but sometimes it's not what you say,but how you say it,I've had a complete turn around on these two since it started,couldn't stand Helen,but I've seen true emotion in her even if she doesn't express it in the way some would like sometimes,she also has a fun side too and seems pretty loyal until crossed!

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Oh yes they are different in how they go about things,Helen is gung ho,gobby and potty mouthed,but Ashleigh for me is much worse as she is devious,sly and whispers ,both bitch,but sometimes it's not what you say,but how you say it,I've had a complete turn around on these two since it started,couldn't stand Helen,but I've seen true emotion in her even if she doesn't express it in the way some would like sometimes,she also has a fun side too and seems pretty loyal until crossed!

Thanks for giving your perception of Helen and Ashleigh, Kazanne. For myself, I could never like someone who tries to degrade and humiliate other people openly on a public TV show and who is warned for bullying. NEVER. A person who picks on those who she perceives as weaker than herself and has done plenty of talking behind peoples backs. A person who lies their way out of being caught out and then cries to get sympathy from the person (Steven) who they have not admitted they have hurt. A person who then says in the DR they don't regret saying what they did. An immoral, nasty bully called Helen.

Ashleigh, on the other hand, has bitched, yes. But WHO has she bitched about and tried to overcome - the ones who bully and are cruel to others, NEVER the nice HM's.

Ashleigh is a big fave with the forums and the public. If she is worse than Helen, as you think, why do you think the majority prefer her?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

Thanks for giving your perception of Helen and Ashleigh, Kazanne. For myself, I could never like someone who tries to degrade and humiliate other people openly on a public TV show and who is warned for bullying. NEVER. A person who picks on those who she perceives as weaker than herself and has done plenty of talking behind peoples backs. A person who lies their way out of being caught out and then cries to get sympathy from the person (Steven) who they have not admitted they have hurt. A person who then says in the DR they don't regret saying what they did. An immoral, nasty bully called Helen.

Ashleigh, on the other hand, has bitched, yes. But WHO has she bitched about and tried to overcome - the ones who bully and are cruel to others, NEVER the nice HM's.

Ashleigh is a big fave with the forums and the public. If she is worse than Helen, as you think, why do you think the majority prefer her?

So ashleigh and danielle didn't regularly refer to helen as a tramp, slut, vile, disgusting and many other colourful adjectives? Considering they're not privvy to the info we have that's very mean.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So ashleigh and danielle didn't regularly refer to helen as a tramp, slut, vile, disgusting and many other colourful adjectives? Considering they're not privvy to the info we have that's very mean.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So ashleigh and danielle didn't regularly refer to helen as a tramp, slut, vile, disgusting and many other colourful adjectives? Considering they're not privvy to the info we have that's very mean.

Plus Ashleigh and Danielle have attacked Kim's and Helen's physical appearances.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Plus Ashleigh and Danielle have attacked Kim's and Helen's physical appearances.

Bloody hell fire Ellen, you are on fire this morning girl,

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by Ellen

Plus Ashleigh and Danielle have attacked Kim's and Helen's physical appearances.

Funny that...only last night Helen called Jale a 'FAT KNOB'.... I think that's a spiteful comment on someone's physical appearance don't you?...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So ashleigh and danielle didn't regularly refer to helen as a tramp, slut, vile, disgusting and many other colourful adjectives? Considering they're not privvy to the info we have that's very mean.

Way to go Kizzy, accurate and true as always.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So ashleigh and danielle didn't regularly refer to helen as a tramp, slut, vile, disgusting and many other colourful adjectives? Considering they're not privvy to the info we have that's very mean.

I don't recall Ashleigh and Danielle calling Helen a tramp and a slut. Have you proof of this? They did call her vile and disgusting, but not regularly. That's a deliberate exaggeration.
The difference is, Ashleigh and Danielle were talking about a person who bullies others. Helen attacks those who have done nobody any harm.
Another difference is Ashleigh and Danielle were never warned numerous times for nasty and bullying behaviour, Helen has.
So your little comparison is very weak and not even the whole truth anyway.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by jet

I don't recall Ashleigh and Danielle calling Helen a tramp and a slut. Have you proof of this? They did call her vile and disgusting, but not regularly. That's a deliberate exaggeration.
The difference is, Ashleigh and Danielle were talking about a person who bullies others. Helen attacks those who have done nobody any harm.
Another difference is Ashleigh and Danielle were never warned numerous times for nasty and bullying behaviour, Helen has.
So your little comparison is very weak and not even the whole truth anyway.

Selective memory... must be contagious.

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Now ,now,it's not quantity that counts it's quality Ashleighs done her fair share of bitching and scheming, and still is,so she's no different.

I agree, Ashleigh has but when Helen gets found out why is it 'no big deal' when Ashleigh's is?

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Now ,now,it's not quantity that counts it's quality Ashleighs done her fair share of bitching and scheming, and still is,so she's no different.

...and quality stands for nothing when it's vote to WIN ...so in this game it's quality AND quantity...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

...and quality stands for nothing when it's vote to WIN ...so in this game it's quality AND quantity...

Depends how much your willing to spend

[Rustic bauble]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Depends how much your willing to spend

Lol...if all her fans voted once she would win hands down...

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

Lol...if all her fans voted once she would win hands down...

We'll see