[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by LukeB

i know loads of friends who have a tiff with each other.
she is not a brat she doesnt demand anything.
least she didnt bully anyone unlike helen
bullying is horrible and disgusting

Yes she does demand stuff,she asked Chris if Christopher was ready to apologise to her who does she think she is.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Miranda123

So when she was sitting with Pauline & Toya, slating other people and laughing when Pauline/Toya consistently belittled Christopher and others, that wasnt participating in bullying?

When she told Toya that she could "kick Danielles head in" for talking to Kim when it had been decided by Toya and Ashleigh, that they did not like her, and were ostracising her, thats wasnt a form of bullying?

When she sat in that dressing gown, in the bedroom and in the pod, slagging off Helen every minute of the day, even when Helen wasnt doing anything wrong, and Ash, when he has only ever been nice to her, she was vile about Jale constantly too, but she's such a nice girl??

Give me a break

Tip of the Week: Wearing rose tinted specs while watching TV can damage your eyesight

Nonsense, You are getting carried away. Next you'll be saying Ash and Winston are bullies for laughing when Helen was slagging off Jale and Christopher. There is only one bully in that house - Helen. The one who got the warnings.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by jet

Nonsense, You are getting carried away. Next you'll be saying Ash and Winston are bullies for laughing when Helen was slagging off Jale and Christopher. There is only one bully in that house - Helen. The one who got the warnings.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Yes she does demand stuff,she asked Chris if Christopher was ready to apologise to her who does she think she is.

she didnt demand it..
its nice to know she still favourite to win i looked onn oddschecker

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by mrflibble

Only comment I see there that I agree with is " I don't understand the fuss over that Ashleigh/Christopher argument. You see that everyday between friends/brothers and sisters." It wasn't even an argument, just a little spat between friends.

She's standing up to a "man" in a public arena for all to see, that's her big mistake.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I have days when I cannot be bothered but if I was sitting in a group of 'friends' or a mix of friends and others, and one said something,I wouldn't show them up and make a scene as to what they were saying to everyone else and not just to me.

Ashleigh couldn't be bothered,was having a rough day,fair enough, get up and clear off then don't show Christopher up.
That is not how friends treat each other at all.

on national tv too ,such a lovely girl

[wormsinfested]

Great news, Ashleigh is a brat and she ****ing sucks! I liked her at first, but as everyone saw it was just as fake play to "win" the people over when she tried to get Ash out.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

There was venom in Ashleigh's words and etched in her face. So no, it wasn't an every day tiff between friends etc

Don't exaggerate; there was tiredness and frustration in her voice/face. And if you think it's not normal then I'd love you to meet My 14 yr old niece and 13 yr old nephew.

[LukeB]

if the housemates was powerpuff girls

Helen would be buttercup the aggressive one
Ashleigh would be bubbles the nice one who loves animals
Zoe will be blossom because she thinks she the leader

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

on national tv too ,such a lovely girl

it happens in life and on big brother

[Alf]

How come Ashleigh is taking all the stick for this little tiff? Christmas played his part in it. He was the one who stormed off like a brat.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Don't need to look far to find them

No because there's so much predjudice about. Winston gets angry, he's a hero, Ashleigh gets angry "burn the witch!!".

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by wannashag

How come Ashleigh is taking all the stick for this little tiff? Christmas played his part in it. He was the one who stormed off like a brat.

[Bedouin]

The brat thing is just under the belt and unnecessary though.
Defined as "a child, typically one that is badly behaved."
It's just an ageist word to use, especially in that case. She's no longer a minor, legally, so it's a very inaccurate and loaded word to use...

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by wannashag

How come Ashleigh is taking all the stick for this little tiff? Christmas played his part in it. He was the one who stormed off like a brat.

Because Ashleigh generates the most heat.
At Wrestlemania, Ashleigh would be the 45 minute main event and Christopher would be the 5 minute gimmick match that opens the show.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

The power hm8,immunity has been her undoing ,its made her true colours of being a brat come out

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by jet

Nonsense, You are getting carried away. Next you'll be saying Ash and Winston are bullies for laughing when Helen was slagging off Jale and Christopher. There is only one bully in that house - Helen. The one who got the warnings.

...

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Daffodil

She came over as pre-menstrual to me.

The way people on here talk about the hm's in the most derogatory/personal way on here and other BB related message boards amazes Me-you're talking about REAL people. Show some ********** respect, or is it the same old s*** of it's ok for Me to be rude/aggressive but not for anyone else to.

Ashleigh is a normal 18 yr old woman, just because she doesn't come up to other people's standards doesn't make her any less deserving of respect/sensitivity.

This board and others like it makes Me realise why I rarely admit to liking BB-I would HATE to meet one of the rude/aggressive/judgemental hypocrites who watch the show and demonstrate so much ill will and thoughts of physically harming people who went on some t.v show.

Really, I can't get over the fact that we are'nt supposed to insult each other but because the people on the show are all safely away from us and can't see how much some want to harm them, they're fair game.

[sampvt]

The fact that numerous people are calling her a brat, points to the fact that maybe there is some truth in it. Newsflash, good girls don't swear, shag and bitch and all achieved to a very high degree as a teenager. Maybe in some peoples world it is acceptable and applauded, but certainly not in mine.

I think I will stay with the idea that a nice girl chooses her BF wisely and keeps her legs shut till at least 18. She wont swear or disrespect her elders and is polite and courteous to her peers. Call me old fashioned but if Ashleigh comes within a country mile of that criteria, I will eat my hat.

[Vanessa]

Christopher to win!

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by sampvt

The fact that numerous people are calling her a brat, points to the fact that maybe there is some truth in it. Newsflash, good girls don't swear, shag and bitch and all achieved to a very high degree as a teenager. Maybe in some peoples world it is acceptable and applauded, but certainly not in mine.

I think I will stay with the idea that a nice girl chooses her BF wisely and keeps her legs shut till at least 18. She wont swear or disrespect her elders and is polite and courteous to her peers. Call me old fashioned but if Ashleigh comes within a country mile of that criteria, I will eat my hat.

Do you think it's polite and courteous for so many "mature adults" to viciously attack an 18 year old girl? Maybe we should take her to Iran and stone her to death?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Achilles

Do you think it's polite and courteous for so many "mature adults" to viciously attack an 18 year old girl? Maybe we should take her to Iran and stone her to death?

Achilles,that's a tad ott,she isn't the only one that gets attacked,hers is mild compared to some

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by sampvt

The fact that numerous people are calling her a brat, points to the fact that maybe there is some truth in it. Newsflash, good girls don't swear, shag and bitch and all achieved to a very high degree as a teenager. Maybe in some peoples world it is acceptable and applauded, but certainly not in mine.

I think I will stay with the idea that a nice girl chooses her BF wisely and keeps her legs shut till at least 18. She wont swear or disrespect her elders and is polite and courteous to her peers. Call me old fashioned but if Ashleigh comes within a country mile of that criteria, I will eat my hat.

"brat" like "madam" is just a Daily mail-like way of insulting young women who don't conform to some victorian ideal. The same mentality applauds guys who act like this because as we all know, nudge,nudge,wink, wink, "boys will be boys" and anyway, they're "just letting off steam".

I just get the impression from how differently the women are treated/talked about to how men are treated/talked about on the show that the over-riding belief is that "girls" should be seen and not heard.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Achilles,that's a tad ott,she isn't the only one that gets attacked,hers is mild compared to some

That doesn't make it ok, infact, none of it is ok IMHO, I think it should all be toned down several notches.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by sampvt

The fact that numerous people are calling her a brat, points to the fact that maybe there is some truth in it. Newsflash, good girls don't swear, shag and bitch and all achieved to a very high degree as a teenager. Maybe in some peoples world it is acceptable and applauded, but certainly not in mine.

I think I will stay with the idea that a nice girl chooses her BF wisely and keeps her legs shut till at least 18. She wont swear or disrespect her elders and is polite and courteous to her peers. Call me old fashioned but if Ashleigh comes within a country mile of that criteria, I will eat my hat.