[Bluerang1]

You said the racism is too far "BUT". But what? What compares to racism? Oh yeah butter obsession :|

[Amy Jade]

Just because people don't comment on the racism doesn't mean they don't care. Of course it is hideous, nobody should be judged by the colour of their skin.

But the fact remains this topic is NOT just about the tweets she received but the ones she sent out too and because of that people can choose to comment on either.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

The problem with this thread and the reason for my own comment is that people are beginning to comment on Toya's 'bitterness' and totally ignoring the fact she's receiving racist abuse. Clearly the majority of people don't care because they don't like Toya, and that's disgusting.

Basically what I just said, 100% agree with this

Interesting people are trying to shift the blame on to me for having two topics in one thread when the whole reasons arguments have arisen in this thread is because people have chosen to focus on the lesser of the topics

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Basically what I just said, 100% agree with this

Interesting people are trying to shift the blame on to me for having two topics in one thread when the whole reasons arguments have arisen in this thread is because people have chosen to focus on the lesser of the topics

No one is even trying to blame you at all just point out where some posters confusion is coming from..

[Bluerang1]

I don't even know why I'm directing my posts at one person when I disagree with numerous in this thread.

Also, we all felt bad for Colleen, we all think she's been a classy lady in this whole ordeal. How come when Toya says it now she's bitter? Does that mean we're all bitter?

[Brother Leon]

Honestly the racism isn't even surprising. It's twitter. Look at any semi famous black person's Mentions or Youtube comments and it's a madness. Good on her for reporting it, but nothing will come from it.


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On the other topic, she does need to stop with the bullying accusations considering her own conduct and actions in the House and on twitter. Didn't she brag about selling her Ex BFs stuff on Ebay too? Might not be equal to the whole Rooney thing, but it's still classless action.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Josy

No one is even trying to blame you at all just point out where some posters confusion is coming from..

There shouldn't be any confusion at all. If a thread has two topics then talk about BOTH topics or don't post at all. Simple really

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Hayden

There shouldn't be any confusion at all. If a thread has two topics then talk about BOTH topics or don't post at all. Simple really

Most people have done but then some are getting confused asking why people are bringing up toyas bitterness

[waylander1973]

How about we let the police deal with this.

Toya in her tweets since she left have not be nice in general nor was her behavior in the house was - christopher for example.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by Josy

Most people have done but then some are getting confused asking why people are bringing up toyas bitterness

Ah I see. I thought you meant people were confused because there were 2 topics to the thread.

[waylander1973]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Ah I see. I thought you meant people were confused because there were 2 topics to the thread.

You posted more than toya's statements about racial twitter attacks, what does coleen have do with that.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by waylander1973

You posted more than toya's statements about racial twitter attacks, what does coleen have do with that.

Read the title.

The word "And" usually means there's something else to it

[waylander1973]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Read the title.

The word "And" usually means there's something else to it

Personally I think you post it in two separate posts, to allow a balance debate on the two subjects, they are very different topics.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by waylander1973

Personally I think you post it in two separate posts, to allow a balance debate on the two subjects, they are very different topics.

Well I was on her twitter and saw both tweets, so posted them both here.

It's really not hard to talk about two topics in one thread...

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Well I was on her twitter and saw both tweets, so posted them both here.

It's really not hard to talk about two topics in one thread...

People are perfectly entitled to do so, though.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

People are perfectly entitled to do so, though.

Well if that's the case then it reveals a lot about their character, if they are willing to focus on a much less severe issue rather than an issue that is completely unacceptable and something which she deserves sympathy/empathy for, even if you don't like her.

[waylander1973]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Well I was on her twitter and saw both tweets, so posted them both here.

It's really not hard to talk about two topics in one thread...

You have posted that people posted here were not critical enough about the posts which toya herself has taken down so some of us have no idea what was said to toya for her to react the way she did and therefore I not in a position to pass judgement on it, I not on twitter so I just guessing what was really said to her - how bad it really was/how many posts of a racial nature she was subjected to.

Like I said early, this is matter for the police not this forum.

[Headie]

^It's Big Brother related, so obviously it's going to be discussed on a Big Brother discussion forum.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Well if that's the case then it reveals a lot about their character, if they are willing to focus on a much less severe issue rather than an issue that is completely unacceptable and something which she deserves sympathy/empathy for, even if you don't like her.

So basically you wanted a pity party thread

[bots]

I think we are simply not in a position to judge fully what is going on. Plenty of evidence of racial abuse, let the police deal with that.

No evidence that I have seen of Helen or any other housemate involved in that abuse.

Plenty of abuse being sent out by the Toya trio to Helen and her supporters, again, its up to the police to determine if that is an offense or not

[jet]

On the subject of Helen's involvement with Wayne Rooney - I don't give a rats ass about him, but I do feel for Collen and her young family.
It shows what kind of person Helen is that she was willing to let the whole thing be raked up again by going into the BB house in the first place. She didn't chose to go in last year, or next year - oh no - she chose to go in during the World Cup year so she would get maximum publicity and media coverage. She didn't care that it would cause fresh hurt to Colleen. She used the notoriety the story gave her and flaunted it at the expense of a young innocent family.
Now she is saying "I want to put it behind me" - while flaunting it with a front page spread and interview with the Daily Star.
What a self seeking, uncaring bitch. I detest her kind.

[Headie]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

So basically you wanted a pity party thread

Please highlight the part of my post where I said that?

I don't see what's wrong with thinking that people, regardless of their hate for Toya, would feel sorry for her racial abuse she's been getting. But no, it's just 'bitter Toya' etc. We're all human, we should all be respectful. Discuss both points or none at all. Simple.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

So basically you wanted a pity party thread

Wth? As if people would go 'Unlucky Toya. You deserve it fat black bitch' on here (I hope )

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Hayden

Please highlight the part of my post where I said that?

I don't see what's wrong with thinking that people, regardless of their hate for Toya, would feel sorry for her racial abuse she's been getting. But no, it's just 'bitter Toya' etc. We're all human, we should all be respectful. Discuss both points or none at all. Simple.

Perhaps, like me, some people did not see any racial abuse to discuss.
I don't do twitter, I don't understand twitter, I don't know who said what.
Some things go without saying racial abuse is always wrong, regardless of whom it is aimed at.

[user104658]

Wait... wait..... .............. wwwait....

"Coleen epitomises class, dignity and integrity."

...Coleen Rooney???????? I knew there was a reason I didn't like Toya when she was in the house. Girl is bat**** crazy